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It happens when you get too invested into the game, and then something bad happens and you start to look for excuses (certainly it wasn't your fault).
While I find Troll Warlord's lore and dialogue stupid for not being related to Dota/Fantasy Trolls but to Internet Trolls, it's very related to the problem.
ORNSTEIN AND SMOUGH DOWN, BABY! First runthrough, seven attempts, no range, no summons!
Elation! Praise the sun!
Dayum gurl! Shiiiiit yeah my first runthrough against them was rough around the edges... Pretty much the pettiest tactics I could muster by the end :[
Welllll... I didn't exactly flawless it either XD
on the kill attempt I used all my Estus and had to eat 2 Hew-manatees. I could not figure out how to avoid Supersmough's lightning butt slam so I just tanked it every time. But it kinda felt like a Megaman boss kill attempt where you're committed as soon as you start using E tanks.
Haha yeah it's like that feeling when the robot master's almost dead and you just give up and tank him while rapidly spamming the shoot button.
Do you have DS2 yet or you going to get that once you beat DS?
How DO you deal with Supersmough's lightning butt slam, anyway? I went into phase 2 with 4 Estus and he still ran me out because I was just soaking all the damage at that point.
Don't have DS2 yet. Was gonna get that after I finished NG+ on DS1. Was thinking of getting the mod that permanently turns on Gravelording for NG+ so my game will be filled with red phantoms (to simulate an actual NG+/black world tendency instead of just the stat upscaling they had in DS1).
I just kite him around pillars and plink at him with a crossbow. It takes a while and like 200 bolts but it works
zidana123 said:
ORNSTEIN AND SMOUGH DOWN, BABY! First runthrough, seven attempts, no range, no summons!Elation! Praise the sun!
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I've never had any trouble avoiding either Ornstein or Smough's butt slams. I usually kill Smough first cause a powered up Ornstein is harder to deal with on NG+. Better to get that out of the way earlier rather than later.
Also DS2 is great but it feels odd somehow. Like, it gives me a weird feeling I can't quite place. It also seems way longer than DS.
EternalSpiral said:
Also DS2 is great but it feels odd somehow. Like, it gives me a weird feeling I can't quite place. It also seems way longer than DS.
Maybe an ADP issue? Do you have 20+? And yea, DS2 has something like twice the bosses than DS. The content is alot denser too.
Dedicated my not-busy life(so like 20 minutes a week) to kernel space program. Such space, so many rockets. Wow.
On the topic of DS2, I tried it for a whole afternoon at a friends place and it felt odd for me aswell. It doesn't have the same 'soul' of DaS.
I'll probably either skip it, or get it way down the line after a bunch of price cuts.
zidana123 said:
Maybe an ADP issue? Do you have 20+? And yea, DS2 has something like twice the bosses than DS. The content is alot denser too.
I can't look right now, but my ADP isn't any more than like 15. Should it be higher or lower?
By weird feeling, I mean like, Demon's Souls gave me a sort of disconnected feeling. I didn't care about any of the NPCs and the areas didn't feel like they were part of the same world. Dark Souls on the other hand was the opposite. I loved most of the NPCs and you could see the different areas from a distance. Dark Souls 2 is sort of a cross between the two, I guess.
EternalSpiral said:
I can't look right now, but my ADP isn't any more than like 15. Should it be higher or lower?
As I understand it, ~20 ADP is the benchmark where ability usages have roughly the same speed as they did in DS1. So if you go fresh into DS2 from DS1, and you don't immediately get 20 ADP, it causes frustration in some players because they perceive the slower action as ability delay.
By weird feeling, I mean like, Demon's Souls gave me a sort of disconnected feeling. I didn't care about any of the NPCs and the areas didn't feel like they were part of the same world. Dark Souls on the other hand was the opposite. I loved most of the NPCs and you could see the different areas from a distance. Dark Souls 2 is sort of a cross between the two, I guess.
Yea, I agree on that totally. We call it Dark Souls 2 but it's really more of a Demon Souls 2. Look at the healing system, for instance. Dark Souls 2 really has Estus as a fallback, and you're supposed to carry around like 20-30 lifegems for most of your heals. That's closer to the pockets of grass from Demon Souls than anything in Dark Souls.
Dynasty Warriors Xtreme Legends 8 is the lazy remix to the lazy DW8. The PS4 has the definitive version even though the grfx don't get any real polish. It satisfies my button mashing needs for the time being.
zidana123 said:
Yeah, yeah. I had been playing without looking stuff up, except for things like the illusionary walls (cause there was no way in hell I was ever going to find those on my own) and some things about NPCs, but I hadn't looked up anything on the utility of certain stats. After you mentioned it I went and looked and found stuff about it effecting item usage and whatnot. Knowing this earlier probably would have saved me a few deaths.
As for it being more like Demon's Souls, the game is fun enough so it's fine. I'm just disappointed I haven't met any NPCs I really like. Nothing endears you to a character quite like watching Solaire tank god damned LAVA like a boss. Really makes you hope he found his sun in the end.
EternalSpiral said:
I feel like Souls games are so esoteric about how items scale and upgrades work that it's impossible to play without reading a guide. Would it kill Fromsoft to put in better tooltips? Like at least an explanation for weapon scaling and what the letter grades actually MEAN in terms of %?
Poor Solaire. I killed him in Izalith and he meant nothing to me because I'm not summoning anyone for my first run. The neat thing is that if you don't summon him but still talk to him, he has alternate dialogue pointing out that you should summon him more. XD
Did you kill him because he went hollow/crazy? As far as I remember, him turning crazy isn't in any way related to whether or not you summon him, just that you kill the sunlight maggots before entering Izalith. Or did you just kill him for his equipment? Or just for the hell of it?
Also, I didn't know he had different dialogue.
I killed him because he became the sun and was shooting lightning at me. Why is the sun associated with lightning anyway? And he was in the way of my shortcut door. :(
Although that reminds me, I gotta go feed his gear to Frampt. HRAAAAAAAAAH!
I didn't know about the dialogue either until I talked to him in Anor Londo and he was like 'you know you haven't summoned me yet, you should totally do that for jolly cooperation!' (not those exact words).
When I talked to him in Anor Londo he was like,
"You really are fond of chatting with me, aren't you?
If I didn't know better, I'd think you had feelings for me!
Oh, no, dear me. Pretend you didn't hear that! -light chuckle-".
Oh Solaire... ~^.^~ "charmer here"