One Yukkuri Place

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    JusticeItEasy

    Rethinking back then in the original non translated version, now i really don't feel like letting the "politeness" make me give them the benefit of doubt and do some "Shithead detecting" tests, let's just kill them all for entering someone's house without permission.

    PostItEase

    Your to hasty JusticeItEasy.
    You should watch them exit so you know how they go in before you do anything to them.

    Warui

    There is absolutely no hit of politeness in that. Yeah, compared to those that barge into an empty house and declare it their easy place that's much better but that's only because they're a bit smarter and know they're inferior to humans. They look shitheaded enough for a punching bag. Well at least the mwommie. I wouldn't be surprised if they were saying "Shtupid mishter human is away! Thich ich our eashy plache! Let's do mwunch-mwunch eashy!" before the anon came in.

    JusticeItEasy

    I'm not hasty, think again, regardless of politeness, they barged in without being allowed, and made a mess and then go and tell the mister, politely, to let them do that and wait.

    If that were a yukkuri nest, expect the owners of the house to attack the invading yukkuri since no matter how much polite they may be, they are still invading someone's house and eating something without the owner's permission, and it doesn't matter it's trash.

    poweryoga

    >>That's like letting Hitler live in your yard.

    That comment made me lol big time.

    Hamatek

    JusticeItEasy says:

    Posted on 2010-08-07 04:28:54

    I'm not hasty, think again, regardless of politeness, they barged in without being allowed, and made a mess and then go and tell the mister, politely, to let them do that and wait.

    If that were a yukkuri nest, expect the owners of the house to attack the invading yukkuri since no matter how much polite they may be, they are still invading someone's house and eating something without the owner's permission, and it doesn't matter it's trash.politely, to let them do that and wait.

    what would you say if I enrtasse in your house, break all your stuff, furniture, electronics, EVERYTHING! and then say to you: I know it's all yours, but I was looking for something and not found, but thanks for letting me look, and leave as if nothing had happened, what would you do?

    I: KILL THESE WRETCHES!

    Hamatek

    "enrtasse" is "come"!

    sorry! ^^

    MysteriousRhinestoneCowboy

    There's nothing to suggest that the yukkuri broke anything. They knocked over a trash can in order to eat its contents but seem completely reasonable.

    The mother isn't telling the human to wait, she's begging him to let her kids eat and not to get angry. Then she tells her children to hurry up so that they won't be taking up too much of mister's time.

    JusticeItEasy

    They are still inside the house without permission, making a mess in the floor, and there are great probabilities of them having to break a window or something to get in, since unless a pet is seen aroudn you can't expect a pet door somewhere so there are higher chances of a broken window, nobody as surprised as this mister would be the kind to leave the door open on purpose to fetch torture fodder, usually that kind of misters are more cunning and less surprised about finding a family of strays in his home. It's still inexcusable because if it was something else we would make a fuzz, even more if they are yukkuris, no politeness can make up for trespassing and eating your stuff or making a mess.

    Hamatek

    yeah, but who will clean up the mess afterwards?

    tora

    As I believe I said before, here's what I'd do:
    1. Force them to clean up their mess. They seem a little reasonable, and everything they spilled is edible, so this should require little effort.
    2. Flick them on the forehead firmly.
    3. Give them a short lecture on not entering Mister Human's house without Mister Human's permission. (Emphasis on "short", as I wouldn't put too much stock in their intelligence.)
    4. Shoo them outside, and tell them to stick to raiding the trash cans in the alley.

    Depending on their reactions to any of these steps, I might kill them for being scum (if they are, they're unusually good actors, and peculiarly smart, but scum nonetheless) rather than letting them go.

    JIE: There just isn't any evidence - only mere speculation - that they actually did any damage. All we have to go on is a group of (unusually polite) yukkuri inside Anon's house eating trash from a tipped waste bin.

    Anon might just as easily have left a window open or something. Hell, we don't even know for sure the yukkuri tipped the bin - maybe a cat did it or something, and the yukkuri thought "damage is done, might as well".

    Remember, not all of z-aki's strays are shitheads. Some are polite and well-meaning, albeit slow in the head. (These do typically end up killed by scum, though.)

    JusticeItEasy

    Politeness is subjective, specially after you start thinking back about how yukkuris many times think they are making a favor to the mister humans when they aren't.

    That's my main reason for changing positions, dunno if killing but a serious waterfalls of tear triggering beat up they do need.

    After all, yukkuris think that their poo-poo is some sort of god sent gift to mister humans, that anything they do from eating stuff they thing humans should, or for being "cute" in their own opinion, etc. is making humans a favor and because of that humans should accept that no matter their own opinion about the matter.

    So i don't think that being light on this yukkuri would do it, shithead or not, you'll need to make it hard for them to teach them a serious lesson about invading someone's home, because, that's the main point, and while you go "it's all supposition", knowing yukkuris the chances of breaking through are high, so it isn't as unlikely as a stray dog getting in your home through breaking the glass, dogs only get inside places they see the door open, yukkuris? sometimes they open their own entrances.

    Hamatek

    obviously they entered the house without permission, were hungry, downed the trash and have a party...

    for yukkuris of street, can not teach anything, they will simply say: do not be talking about what I do not understand, you're stupid? want to die?

    My opinion? lock the house and torture!

    tora

    @JIE: I'm not going to drag this into a long discussion on fair treatment of idiotic talking magic confections. Suffice it to say, I disagree with the position you've come to accept.

    Personally, I'd rather keep them for observation and experimentation. Is this politeness of the Reimu's due to her inherent disposition, or is it an act to gain sympathy and be let off for minor offenses? If no sinister nature is found, can the non-douchebag nature be bred true? The possibilities are intriguing.

    JusticeItEasy

    If they are willing to break through a house and make a mess, i wouldn't see them as proper specimens for non shithead breed experimenting, you would be better off getting average non home invading strays or wild yukkuris unnaware of home invasion. You may have better chances of finding some worth on those than in home invaders, even if they show some sort of "Politness", fake or not.

    poweryoga

    Regardless of whether its anon's fault for leaving the window open, or whether they broke in, there's a million explanations on both sides. Were there broken windows? maybe. Was anon setting a trap for well-behaved and desperate yukkuris? maybe. Are they shitheads that just want to eat their stuff and leave without getting their just desserts? maybe.

    But there's one thing that's for certain. They shouldn't be in the house, and they shouldn't be asking for anon to wait while they finish because there's no reason for them to be there in the first place. I think that's the point of the story that you guys missed in this whole debate: the fact that these yukkuris are being ridiculously unreasonable when they are intruding on private property, polite or not.

    Whether you want to raise the hitlers in the backyard or pound them into a red mist or let them go after a light punishment, that's your prerogative. Don't get into personal insults over another person's views, because after all yukkuris are yukkuris and there's no reason to get worked up over it.

    YUKI

    I won't kill them,for what mother says,but there still are many things I can do...

    qazcake

    depends on if there nice. if they arnt its homemade flamethrower time