One Yukkuri Place

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    EasyV

    This was better than I thought.

    JusticeItEasy

    Hmmm it was comically original, or at least fresh, since I wouldn't be surprised if this kind of switcheroo was done already.

    Anyway good one, fun and hilariously fresh!

    Nachopepper

    This was a great history from 9th

    ShuperPoo

    This was pretty funny!

    Nitro

    This is my new favorite bullying story. Loved it! rofl

    JusticeItEasy

    ShindoSOS said:

    Humans think they are alpha and always abusing other creatures…

    1) We get abused by other creatures, sometimes even smaller than us, so we may as well answer accordingly. At least until they cease their shenanigans.

    2) Shitheads are fair play, an embodiment of smugsnakes and anything bad in any talking creature ever, should be properly trashed as the shitty caricature it is

    3) No Anti Abyuse on Abyuse no Anti FF on FF, respect the golden rule.

    Like...if Abyuse really isn't your thing...this is the wrong place since Yu Works aren't filtered fully, you may as well stick to a normal booru for cutesy FF only pics.

    Cute Aggression

    ShindoSOS said:

    Humans think they are alpha and always abusing other creatures…

    If I am not wrong, the yukkuries started as cute and warm-hearted creatures, and they wanted to bring joy - or easiness, to people.

    Then some a-holes didn't like all the cutie stuffs, they invented the so-called "shithead" yukkuries and introduced the concept of "slavery" into these creatures' mind, effectively tarnished the reputation of yukkuries.

    Times went on, butterfly effect yada yada, now what people know of these creatures are obnoxious, selfish and lousy talking pastries who want to ruin your day.

    MAKE NICEHEADS GREAT AGAIN!

    MAKE SHITHEADS NEVER EXISTED!

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    JusticeItEasy

    Cute_Aggression said:
    If I am not wrong, the yukkuries started as cute and warm-hearted creatures, and they wanted to bring joy - or easiness, to people.

    Then some a-holes didn't like all the cutie stuffs, they invented the so-called "shithead" yukkuries and introduced the concept of "slavery" into these creatures' mind, effectively tarnished the reputation of yukkuries.

    Times went on, butterfly effect yada yada, now what people know of these creatures are obnoxious, selfish and lousy talking pastries who want to ruin your day.

    MAKE NICEHEADS GREAT AGAIN!

    MAKE SHITHEADS NEVER EXISTED!

    All because of an Asshole Wizard who wanted to mock the gensokyans and didn't care about cleaning up after the joke was far from over.

    Canttakeiteasy

    JusticeItEasy said:

    All because of an Asshole Wizard who wanted to mock the gensokyans and didn't care about cleaning up after the joke was far from over.

    *cough*

    I disagree but I would rather show than tell at this point.

    There is a very neat theory to it, I wager, and does not come within 50% of your wizard story

    JusticeItEasy

    Canttakeiteasy said:
    *cough*

    I disagree but I would rather show than tell at this point.

    There is a very neat theory to it, I wager, and does not come within 50% of your wizard story

    Asshole Wizard doing horrendous jokes is the most Touhou explanation, without threading into over used archetypes!

    Or else we end up with that it's all because Yukari was messing with Gaps, then Asshole Wizards decided to do a horrendous joke, all while being part of a moriya shrine conspiracy that was using a shady Eirin Drug!

    And now that's just a crackpot conspiracy theory, and this is a place of intelect not of lunacy! Go to the moon for that if you want Lunacy!

    exitstrategy

    Now this is the kind of abyuse I'm talking about. Cleverness is a lot more entertaining than plain cruelty.

    wazakiller

    A Japanese has posted the history of yukkuri's stories.
    At first, yukkuries started as cute and warm-hearted creatures for a short time, and then people torture them for "love".
    Some creators,we call them "first Anon" here, wanted to see them embarrassed, make an exhibition of themselves, and more,more,and......finally,they torture them because they are so cute.

    However, other creators didn't want to see yukkuris be tortured, we call them "faction of love" here, they kept to create warm-hearted stories.

    Interestingly, there were not many arguments between these two factions, and yukkuris keep being a kind of "mysterious".In other words, they are not "creature" in this period. "Good head" and "shit head" were not exist.

    After a lot of things in this period, such as crazy fans of touhou supplanted the host and deported the yukkuri fans, some of creators, we call them "anon" here, began to make yukkuris mortal.
    Yukkuris started to have reproductive behavior, feeding habits,and anything made them "real". "good head" and "shit head" appeared in this period.

    First anon don't like anon. They torture yukkuri for love.They hate "shit bag" which created by anon."Shit bag" is worthless for tortured.They don't have many fight with anon because "first anon" are the most rare.
    (In fact,they are most difficult to understand.People who can't realize them always think they are just sick. )

    "Faction of love" keep fighting anon until now. They made many settings of yukkuris to against anon's settings. Fighting between them made yukkuris' stories prosperous and diversification.
    They failed. People love warm-hearted for sure,but they also love to see "shit head" been tortured.

    Anon becomes the biggest faction until now because they are the easiest to understand and been accepted.

    Humanity is not the only reason. The yukkuri stories now are parts of internet creations's history.

    Sorry for my poor English

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    Cute Aggression

    wazakiller said:

    ...........

    Wow, you can change your account name? Premium account?

    JusticeItEasy

    wazakiller said:
    The Epic Yu Saga

    Leans a bit more into the meta, but that's quite the interesting genesis of the yu's, thanks for sharing that!

    To be honest my Asshole Wizards thing is more a joke with a intention of it being more of a "in universe" explanation using a bit of Touhou logic but gone seriously wrong...that and if you feel like it also see it as some sort of conspiracy theory (though from my pov a truthful one, as tvtropes would say a cassandra truth.)

    Cute Aggression

    JusticeItEasy said:

    Leans a bit more into the meta, but that's quite the interesting genesis of the yu's, thanks for sharing that!

    To be honest my Asshole Wizards thing is more a joke with a intention of it being more of a "in universe" explanation using a bit of Touhou logic but gone seriously wrong...that and if you feel like it also see it as some sort of conspiracy theory (though from my pov a truthful one, as tvtropes would say a cassandra truth.)

    My blame on Yukari. Period.

    EasyDeibu

    wazakiller said:

    A lot of awesome historical details

    This is a recurring phenomena. Fluffy ponies, Jissouseki are great other examples.

    It shows that many people need such abuse stories to vent their stress or something like it. And they need stories to have abuse justified.

    Large enough fandoms (MLP, Rozen Maiden, Touhou) would sometime produce an offspin derivative creature, and such creatures with their rules, behaviour and physiology not clearly defined yet are the perfect opportunity, because with enough stories you can influence how the creature is perceived, essentially creating "rules" for it. And then it can be shaped into something that is conveniently and justifiably abusable. Any author is free to ignore the common rules, but in this case their work usually would not be well received anymore.

    This is kinda dickish to original creators and their strokes of creativity that started those creatures. Oh well. It's not like there's some devilish scheme being executed each time to take over the creatures, just natural evolution of concept through demand and supply, and abuse lovers outnumber people from fandom who actually cared for weird reiteration of their favourite characters.

    Cute Aggression

    EasyDeibu said:

    This is kinda dickish to original creators and their strokes of creativity that started those creatures.

    ^ Well said

    EasyDeibu said:
    and abuse lovers outnumber people from fandom who actually cared for weird reiteration of their favourite characters.

    Found the asshole wizards

    JusticeItEasy

    Cute_Aggression said:
    Found the asshole wizards

    How dare you steal my "Original Idea Do Not Steal" and modify it for your own whim!

    Though serious talk, I think that rather than "abuse lovers" outnumbering the non abuse lovers is more like you have abuse lovers and ff lovers being a minority against the huge number of people who like both type of works, since even between artist you see this thing of "sometimes making a cute ff work and sometimes just making a bean splatter fest story for shit and giggles".

    Another thing to consider is the annoyance factor and how THERE IS a "too much cuteness" or "too much cuteness that treats it's audience in a very condecending way." that tend to lead to all those "barney killing" kind of situations or people vent their anger at over done moeblob and moe obsessed people.

    I wouldn't be surprised if that was also a factor on yukkuris and similar creatures.

    PD.: In b4 we get chibi asshole wizards as a new form of bodied yukkuri who are 100% for abyuse because karma.

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    JusticeItEasy said:

    Another thing to consider is the annoyance factor and how THERE IS a "too much cuteness" or "too much cuteness that treats it's audience in a very condecending way." that tend to lead to all those "barney killing" kind of situations or people vent their anger at over done moeblob and moe obsessed people.

    Good point. I never knew this.

    ShindoSOS

    I kind of wish someone draw a comic about how human tries to abuse Yukkuri and eventually they being abuse instead,Asia have some yukkuri thread,like that setting

    JusticeItEasy

    ShindoSOS said:

    I kind of wish someone draw a comic about how human tries to abuse Yukkuri and eventually they being abuse instead,Asia have some yukkuri thread,like that setting

    No just No, again Shindo, I don't want some shitstorm incoming because people can't just learn to remain on their side of the fence and live and let live.

    We have a strict rule for that reason, it's bad enough in the Japanese Fandom that we have artist leaving because someone disliked their FF or their Abyuse work and started harrassing them.

    We had enough rabid dirtbags of both camps coming here to annoy people and ruin their fun and going for the "hurrr we need a role reversal story for fairness sake hurr hurr totally not just me making mouth pieces insulting parts of the fandom and claim moral superiority with them hur hur", is encouraging those rabid dirtbags.

    So yeah, no, just no.
    We learn to remain on our side of the fence, or if we are able to move between both sides of the fence then learn to behave according to each side of the fence.

    And yeah I also include the passive agressive bs as things we should avoid, each side of the fence has it's set of rules, respect them and don't complain.

    Edit: Plus I think normal Gore is a Big No No here (and saying that abusing humans wouldn't lead to that is delusional), it either has to be some tame violence and death with plot like poweryoga stories or nothing.

    Though seriously Humans get abused alot in over 9000 franchrises and spectrums, and many times out of the author's biased spite, so yeah, let's leave that out for any board or forum that actually is for that kind of shit.

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    JusticeItEasy

    What did I say?
    Plus Canttakeitesy using yourself as example doesn't count! It's like if I used myself as an example of Eikis being common yukkuris because I show up often now! And we know the reality!
    The Zippang example is valid though so it counts.

    Seriously just stop, I rather not see this being as some sort of "well screw the golden rule pass" and then we have rabid abyuse fans going to FF works and shitting on them, more so when poweryoga isn't as available as he was before to drop the Law Hammer!

    Also the idea of comparing any yukkuri with the Doom Slayer is beyond heretical, it's pretty much worth a thousand exterminatus and you sure as hell don't want me to go "Cyclonic Torpedos Drop, Everybody Dies!"

    Again people stick to your side of the fence if you lack the flexibility of an electronic oldman to move between fence sides without disrespecting each side and breaking the Golden Rule!

    Canttakeiteasy said:
    The thing is while most of us communicate in English here, the website statistics seem to show that most of the traffic comes from china/taiwan of all places and belgium (but that could just be because some people are using VPN

    Yeah but I think China/Taiwan are a totally different beast from Japan Yusphere fandom wise, kinda how the western sphere is different as well.

    Though I'll be honest and admit I'm not sure how the China/Taiwan Sphere differs but it was stated a lot by people that it is different from the Japanese one and ours.

    Now the potential of Belgium VPN usage makes me wonder if there is a particular reason for choosing Belgium in particular or it's a super weird coincidence.

    ShindoSOS

    JusticeItEasy said:

    What did I say?
    Plus Canttakeitesy using yourself as example doesn't count! It's like if I used myself as an example of Eikis being common yukkuris because I show up often now! And we know the reality!
    The Zippang example is valid though so it counts.

    Seriously just stop, I rather not see this being as some sort of "well screw the golden rule pass" and then we have rabid abyuse fans going to FF works and shitting on them, more so when poweryoga isn't as available as he was before to drop the Law Hammer!

    Also the idea of comparing any yukkuri with the Doom Slayer is beyond heretical, it's pretty much worth a thousand exterminatus and you sure as hell don't want me to go "Cyclonic Torpedos Drop, Everybody Dies!"

    Again people stick to your side of the fence if you lack the flexibility of an electronic oldman to move between fence sides without disrespecting each side and breaking the Golden Rule!

    Dude, Chill, i just want to share my idea, don't need to be so furious

    JusticeItEasy

    ShindoSOS said:
    Dude, Chill, i just want to share my idea, don't need to be so furious

    We have a forum for that, specially when your "idea" comes after yet again complaining about "the ebil abyuse".

    It comes out as just you making excuses to keep complaining about abyuse and talk about how you would mess up those pesky mean anons from abyuse.

    The worse is that this will give "justification" to the other side to start doing the same on FF and we get some serious problems because people aren't respecting the Golden Rule.

    Plus this isn't your first time Shindo, just stop.
    More so with 9th since you clearly are still pissy about him making Okuus in his works not nuclear at all and easy preys and you took it too personal.

    Again, don't like abyuse or a particular subset of abyuse? Ignore it, focus on what you like and only enjoy that, don't ruin it for others.

    Want to discuss story ideas? We have a Forum that could use more discussion!

    The Inquisitorial Judge of The Heavens is super annoyed by your super kuro heresy, so you better listen, lots of listening is fine!

    ShindoSOS

    JusticeItEasy said:

    We have a forum for that, specially when your "idea" comes after yet again complaining about "the ebil abyuse".

    It comes out as just you making excuses to keep complaining about abyuse and talk about how you would mess up those pesky mean anons from abyuse.

    The worse is that this will give "justification" to the other side to start doing the same on FF and we get some serious problems because people aren't respecting the Golden Rule.

    Plus this isn't your first time Shindo, just stop.
    More so with 9th since you clearly are still pissy about him making Okuus in his works not nuclear at all and easy preys and you took it too personal.

    Again, don't like abyuse or a particular subset of abyuse? Ignore it, focus on what you like and only enjoy that, don't ruin it for others.

    Want to discuss story ideas? We have a Forum that could use more discussion!

    The Inquisitorial Judge of The Heavens is super annoyed by your super kuro heresy, so you better listen, lots of listening is fine!

    Where is that forum?