I guess, maybe Kuyagiyu felt this story went WAY beyond the pale of being dark and evil, so... they made a joke ending, portraying the whole thing as a horror movie, and no yukkuri were actually harmed?
Ok so this story was a kind of "Tales of the crypt" movie. Because i still don't understand what is going.
An abyuser with a remilia keeps a pair of adult yus around to produce fresh food and provide for a big Christmas party. The adults have a limited understanding that their children are used as food as a price for their lifestyle. The yus keep refreshing against the owner's permission (continuously) and the owner starts to play mind games with them starting with reminding reimu of the consequences of illegitimate refreshing. Reimu eventually births a wasa and the baby proceeds to torture everyone. The owner leverages the wasa to make the parents uncomfortable until marisa snaps and reimu wounds her. The owner ruins the wasa's ribbon to bring reimu back to her senses and fixes up marisa. Finally, the owner lets them refresh as much as they want before the big bash. Then they all get gassed and the rest is obvious.
Hitosura said:
I guess, maybe Kuyagiyu felt this story went WAY beyond the pale of being dark and evil, so... they made a joke ending, portraying the whole thing as a horror movie, and no yukkuri were actually harmed?
For the most part, when you have you ever read about an abyuser with the months of patience and dedication this one has demonstrated? Most fly off the handle in a week or put the yus in a low-maintenance environment so they don't have to work too hard.
The kicker for me is how the owner is constantly claiming that her yus are turning rotten with time, but I really didn't see that. I don't know if that is lost in translation or part of the owner's character.
Edit: just sound off a bit more, the whole plot is kind of a shitshow. They know not to refresh yet somehow they have a family maintained by the abyuser. The real kicker is reimu's reaction in the last chapter when her owner taunts her that her kids died screaming. Like really? Reimu knew from the very first chapter that her kos were being turned into kibble in exchange for her easiness; this ends up throwing off a lot of the plot progress including the whole store walk scene. If the author was trying to emulate murrican horror's messy writing, he/she/what/it did an amazing job.
Exit post is in part why i'm confused about the history, Marisa didn't understand what was going until the last moments, she have the concept but her mind didn't put it in order before. Reimu is implied to known better since the start. The other option is after she have her "Proud and humble mother moment" she was that full of herself she really forget the nature of her life with femanon.
I think the confusion is coming from the inconsistency in the story.
At the start, reimu knows about what her owner is doing and marisa has a vague idea. Then reimu gets pregnant and somehow seems to forget this faustian deal. Then femanon starts dropping increasingly blunt hints on marisa until she finally figures out what reimu knew from the start. Then the gas conveniently comes. Reimu never seems to remember the deal from the start at the party for whatever reason.
- Reimu and Marisa were given an easy place by Oneesan - Reimu and Marisa took it easy and refreshed a lot - They popped out a lot of baby yus - Oneesan thinks the number is enough, forbade them to make more
Then the story begins proper, Oneesan shown to take the baby yus to abyuse and feed Remilia one or two at a time so they don't notice anything, Reimu couldn't take it anymore and illegally refreshed with Marisa, out pops a wasa, they tried to hide it desperately, failed and caught, unexpectedly forgiven by Oneesan, allowed to refreshed for Christmas, gassed, abyuse party.
I never thought Reimu and Marisa ever realized anything, but seems like I missed this. Which page implied Reimu realized the whole thing was a sham?
In post #66771 Reimu makes a peculiar face as Oneesan is leaving with a pair kos. In isolation, you can interpret this as Reimu knowing what's going on. But when you have one panel implying one thing and all the rest of the comic showing the opposite, I guess Reimu was making a face about something else back then. Like Oneesan being nosy person who grabs her in painful ways and asks weird questions instead of letting everyone take it easy.
Even earlier than that, you have post #66766 with Reimu and Marisa making a concerted effort to deflect the noisy suffering in the next room. The adults understand that next door is anon with their kos and not the outside, so they know the stories about the outside don't apply and that something rotten is in play. Reimu is perceptive of the fact that her kos leave before long before maturity and don't come back. The extent of understanding is never made explicit, but implications are not subtle.
But... the screaming actually is coming from the outside. Oneesan went out to play with Remilia and the komarisa-on-a-stick. I think Reimu not wanting her kos to think about the suffering of other yukkuri on the outside makes perfect sense even with the interpretation that she doesn't know.
In post #66771 Reimu makes a peculiar face as Oneesan is leaving with a pair kos. In isolation, you can interpret this as Reimu knowing what's going on. But when you have one panel implying one thing and all the rest of the comic showing the opposite, I guess Reimu was making a face about something else back then. Like Oneesan being nosy person who grabs her in painful ways and asks weird questions instead of letting everyone take it easy.
Ah. I always thought that that was Reimu's rebellious attitude showing up because the Oneesan started getting on her nerves. It's followed by her breaking the promise not to refresh a few pages later, so I thought that's what it was.
I see what you're saying though, it could also mean Reimu was eyeing Oneesan as she took the ko-yus away I suppose?
exitstrategy said:
Even earlier than that, you have post #66766 with Reimu and Marisa making a concerted effort to deflect the noisy suffering in the next room. The adults understand that next door is anon with their kos and not the outside, so they know the stories about the outside don't apply and that something rotten is in play. Reimu is perceptive of the fact that her kos leave before long before maturity and don't come back. The extent of understanding is never made explicit, but implications are not subtle.
This though, I really don't think it's that deep. Personally, I think it's just Reimu and Marisa wanting to calm their children and make the easy place stay easy. In post #66768 Reimu even defended Oneesan after all.
Actually! Wouldn't post #66768 support my theory of Reimu becoming rebellious instead? Then we have Reimu's stink eye on post #66771 from Oneesan getting on her nerves, and then she breaks her promise not to refresh.
I feel like maybe the artist wasn't 100% sure how the whole story was going to play out when they made the first chapter, so some things in it might be deliberately ambiguous. But I don't think anything in it actually contradicts the reading that Reimu had no idea, which the rest of the story clearly goes with.
Actually! Wouldn't post #66768 support my theory of Reimu becoming rebellious instead? Then we have Reimu's stink eye on post #66771 from Oneesan getting on her nerves, and then she breaks her promise not to refresh.
Not quite, reimu doesn't want marisa using scare tactics on the kos. If they become scared of anon, it is going to get them punished. In this case, ignorance is easiness.
You do see rebellious behavior in post #66776 but this doesn't appear to be a new revelation considering they refreshed without permission before. If anything, reimu is rebelling against her owner for killing her kos.
uneasy said: But... the screaming actually is coming from the outside.
It is the backyard, which is debatable as to whether or not the adults understand. In the next kill scene, the two kos are roasted on an electric grittle, which would put the noise and suffering in side and even closer.
Not quite, reimu doesn't want marisa using scare tactics on the kos. If they become scared of anon, it is going to get them punished. In this case, ignorance is easiness.
You do see rebellious behavior in post #66776 but this doesn't appear to be a new revelation considering they refreshed without permission before. If anything, reimu is rebelling against her owner for killing her kos.
Welp, shit... one question exit, are you basing your understanding of this pool on the Japanese dialogue itself or my translation?
If you are basing it on my translation... welp, I think I may have to apologize.
Specifically this line: "considering they refreshed without permission before". Can you show me all the pages that point to this?
The problem is, now that I've read the story again, I don't see any mention of prior rule breaking. So... things don't add up, and the problem might have stemmed from my incorrect translation.
I'm relying on your translation. So if I'm talking out of my wazoo, then I completely apologize for dumping walls of text.
post #66776 (starting at the last panel) through post #66778 assuming the translations aren't incorrect.
Edit: it looks like I misunderstood these panels. They weren't punished for refreshing. They already had kos. They were punished for asking for more.
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Well slay me with an Excalipeni. It really was my mistake.
Your edit is correct. That last panel translation was the wrong one.
Marisa's line "Oneesan has punished Reimu once before because of this, remember?!" should have been "Oneesan has punished Reimu once before, remember?!" Marisa never actually mentioned why Reimu was punished. The "because of this" was my mistake.
Meaning the why is actually the next page. The Oneesan forbade them to continue refreshing and Reimu didn't want to listen. That's why she was punished.
...and the the first panel in post #66779 is wrong.
Oneesan's line "Next time you go and disobey my rules again I'll banish all of you from your easy place" should have been "The next time you go and disobey my rules, I'll banish all of you from your easy place" The 次 only referred to "next time". The "again" was a mistake on my translation part.
Sigh, these two mistakes are pretty crucial and this discussion proved it was crucial. I'm not even sure why I didn't catch that.
Anyway, I'm so so sorry. I'll go ahead and fix them.
Yukkuri movies like this could actually work to show shitheads what would happen if rules are broken
You even rejected the offer for 'light bullying' at first and everything...I'd be lying if I say I'm not a bit sad about it, but...Reimu, aren't you pushing yourself a bit too much?
I mean, up till now you've only ever starred in 'love' movies..It actually doesn't hurt at all, and I got to turn into a different Reimu from myself, so it was fun!mister humans are able to take it easy...Don't worry Marisa!Abyuse Palaceif I think of it as my reward, then Reimu doesn't need anything elseIf by Reimu having a bad time in the world fiction,Reimu is so happy!