Unconventional "birthing methods" for yukkuris occasionally pop up now and then in the archives in my experience. I found this underground plant based birthing method today actually : post #13188
I feel like the reason the egg method isn't in style is because it's cuter to see them on the stalk, easier to associate with yukkuri via internal pregnancy (making both appeal to the Family friendly crowd0
Meanwhile on the abuse side of the spectrum stalk birth has the potential to kill the babies either through neglect (their fall during birth), the creation of unsafe circumstances under the stalk (like a pool of water or something) or straight up kill them in front of their mother's eyes before they're even born, with the mother killed with them or unharmed.
The internal pregnancy has similar ramifications. They can be killed as they leave their mother's body before they can even see the world.
Meanwhile the egg method is kinda detached from either. I mean, it's sorta cute I guess, but I don't think most people would think it AS cute, and on the abuse side squashing eggs seems sort of comparatively lame.
Ah, if we're talking analysis then the easy answer is: Its hard to portray.
A longer answer is: if you can't describe it, it never happened. Whether its "cute" or "fun to abuse/torture" is moot if you can't "prove it".
The simplest example I can think of (without getting into a long tirade about context and ambiguity) is look at this picture and without looking at the tags or previous pictures, tell me who the characters are at the bottom : post #15221
(Fun fact: the artist actually made an error in the eye colors so they're literally unidentifiable without the first two pictures.)
yukiyuzen said: Ah, if we're talking analysis then the easy answer is: Its hard to portray.
A longer answer is: if you can't describe it, it never happened. Whether its "cute" or "fun to abuse/torture" is moot if you can't "prove it".
The simplest example I can think of (without getting into a long tirade about context and ambiguity) is look at this picture and without looking at the tags or previous pictures, tell me who the characters are at the bottom : post #15221
(Fun fact: the artist actually made an error in the eye colors so they're literally unidentifiable without the first two pictures.)
You don't think that yukkuri artists couldn't draw eggs with relative ease? I'm no artist but I daresay that drawing eggs and hatching egg is not significantly harder than drawing either of the other two methods.
It's all about reception. If a fact about yukkuri has mainstream appeal then most artists will use it.
Maybe people don't feel like fanonizing any of the newer birth methods since yukkuris already have 2 that by themselves give a lot of trouble to define "when" they happen, and the idea of incluiding more and more variations would just make things troublesome for writers and artists?
It's like saying that goblins are born from eggs and suddenly someone went "screw that, i'm making them mammals with green skin", it may work for 1 shots or unique works but for the general "goblin" fandom and creatores? probably they'll stick with what it's long stablished.
yukiyuzen said: If you're not an artist, then don't presume the amount of work that goes into a single picture.
Agreed. Unless the artist is extremely skilled and is used to drawing doujins (many of the yukkuri artists are doujin artists) it takes forever just to cleanup lines. Much less shading like kiri's works.
But I think what most artists do is take something they like and then expand on it. The fruit-birth thing never took off because
1) It's by zattsu and the japanese community HATES zattsu. 2) It's not something the other artists feel like makes sense or is something they would enjoy expanding on.
yukiyuzen said: If you're not an artist, then don't presume the amount of work that goes into a single picture.
Its not always about reception, sometimes its simply practice or self-satisfaction. (Most) People aren't getting paid for this work.
1) Expressing that I am not an artist is fully meant to disclaim any perceived professionalism of my opinion. I said it hoping to avoid this kind of criticism in the first place.
2) That having been, in my inexpert opinion I am having difficulty understanding how drawing ovals or drawing ovals with some cracks (even with extra shading and what have you) is more difficult at all, let alone substantially more difficult, than drawing and shading a stalk (already seemingly a more difficult shape) and the yukkuri on it (roughly circular but requiring all the aforementioned detailing of eyes, a mouth, hair, and an accessory).
So if any of the artists wants to tell me "no trololo, you're a retard and drawing eggs is almost impossible" I'd be happy to listen. But right now I don't think that difficulty is the reason most people don't draw the egg method over the others.
Trololo said: 1) Expressing that I am not an artist is fully meant to disclaim any perceived professionalism of my opinion. I said it hoping to avoid this kind of criticism in the first place.
2) That having been, in my inexpert opinion I am having difficulty understanding how drawing ovals or drawing ovals with some cracks (even with extra shading and what have you) is more difficult at all, let alone substantially more difficult, than drawing and shading a stalk (already seemingly a more difficult shape) and the yukkuri on it (roughly circular but requiring all the aforementioned detailing of eyes, a mouth, hair, and an accessory).
So if any of the artists wants to tell me "no trololo, you're a retard and drawing eggs is almost impossible" I'd be happy to listen. But right now I don't think that difficulty is the reason most people don't draw the egg method over the others.
1. You say you're not an artist, but before you even mention that you say this :
Trololo said: You don't think that yukkuri artists couldn't draw eggs with relative ease?
Don't presume other people's work if you don't contribute your own work.
2. You completely invalidated your own previous points.