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This describes something that's not quite family_friendly, but excludes abuse. This loosens the previously restrictions for family_friendly pictures so that if a picture is "mostly" family_friendly, you can use this tag.
https://forms.gle/VfxxCUdVLZrgiM4P6
Again we'll leave this up for a month or 2.
"There are only two hard things in Computer Science: cache invalidation and naming things." - Phil Karlton
From the names it's not clear to me what they mean precisely. I'd have to go with vanilla though. Maybe because I'm primed from danbooru I take "almost family friendly" to be tongue-in-cheek like "almost heartwarming", and I might expect it to include things like an otherwise-family friendly image with a very family-unfriendly panel.
I'll agree the names are somewhat ambiguous but that's what people voted for. I don't think we have any tongue-in-cheek tags (that's defeat the whole purpose of them imo), so almost_family_friendly also works in our context. Side note: perhaps this is not so on danbooru, but to your point tags are very much like variable names, and should represent the context and what problem it's trying to solve. Having cheeky tags seem to be self-defeating both in purpose as well as in usage, especially for new users who may be unfamiliar on the inside joke.
Anyways in our case, the tag is to identify pictures that are almost family friend, with the exception of one or 2 minor things ruining the image, without any sort of punny-intentions.
So, any decisions?
The results are accessible only to poweryoga, so I personally can't see who won.
oh sorry. I'll post it sometime this week. Completely forgot about it since we had so little activity on it.
Final vote is 7-5 in favor of "Vanilla"
So feel free to use "Vanilla" for stuff that's "mostly family friendly".
Thank you.
Hooray!
[insert semantic rant about how this changes the fundamental divide between the FFs and the abusers]
For real tho, kinda reminiscent of the talk in post #72860 (the distinction between, as EasyV put it, "abyuse" and "bullying").
We now have four-ish tiers: family friendly, vanilla, bullying and abuse.
Take it easy everyone!
Mikato said:
We now have four-ish tiers: family friendly, vanilla, bullying and abuse.
Not really.
family_friendly and vanilla work the same way and the rules regarding family_friendly also apply to vanilla.
The only difference is that vanilla allows "not safe for work" elements.
Other than that, they are the same tag.
Bullying and abuse are considered the same from the point of view of the tags. Once it falls off the family_friendly/vanilla requirements, it's pretty much "abuse" regardless of the amount of damage a yukkuri gets.
EasyV said:
Not really.
family_friendly and vanilla work the same way and the rules regarding family_friendly also apply to vanilla.
The only difference is that vanilla allows "not safe for work" elements.
Other than that, they are the same tag.Bullying and abuse are considered the same from the point of view of the tags. Once it falls off the family_friendly/vanilla requirements, it's pretty much "abuse" regardless of the amount of damage a yukkuri gets.
I think I get the difference that NSFW stuff is not necessarily abuse. Thanks for the explanation!