This is the most recent one I can post to that's emblematic of a problem I've spotted.
a) The "Happy_End" tag is used for things actually labeled as "Happy End" in image -- whether they involve all yukkuri characters dying, a traditional happy ending, or anything in between.
b) It's also used for things that involve every major yukkuri character dying by the end, regardless of whether they're actually labeled "Happy End"
It seems to me that to avoid confusion and dilution of the tag, we should use it exclusively for one or the other. It would seem to me that the "a" usage -- although less common -- is the more useful but I don't want to just unilaterally enact such a major change.
After I look in happy_end tag.I found no tranditional happy end except this one which is edited and lame. Most of tag in this site was taged by feeling like JUSTICE. So I think it is better to not go against the flow.
happy_end tag is a sarcastic tag on the death of yukkuris. Just like "nice boat".
We don't have any specific family friendly happy end tags, since not enough family friendly images are uploaded here to really justify classification. If enough gets uploaded then we can probably do more classification.
You misunderstand my point. This isn't about "family friendly" or "traditional" happy end versus "sarcastic/ironic" happy end. I'm discussing "pictures actually labeled 'happy end' in the picture, whether they're family-friendly, a happy ending without being fully family friendly, or ironic/sarcastic" versus "ironically/sarcastically labeling pictures happy_end, whether or not they're specified as such in-image."
Noted, the in-image label of "happy end" is rare (there's... 3 or 4 images like that, altogether), but it's also distinctive and worthy of comment, and I'm not sure what else we would tag it with besides "happy_end", which is also used for the aforementioned sarcastic usage.
Sarcastically/ironically commenting on yukkuri death.
Pictures that actually use the phrase "Happy End" in-image, regardless of other content.
It just seems to me that it should be used for one or the other, instead of both... but if I'm the only one who thinks that's an issue, that's fine; I'm new around here and just trying to sort things out, and my perspective can be limited as such. That's why I asked, rather than just charging in and changing the tags.
EndEarth... you're still not following. I've said before that it's not about "family friendly" or not -- besides which, this isn't the only "family friendly" pic it applies to; there's one other, labeled as such for the exact same reason this is. And, for that matter, for the exact same reason one version of the final page of the Adulterous Marisa comic was labeled with this, and why one other violent one was.
The others that aren't family-friendly -- and only some of which are the standard usage -- but are included because they actually contain the text "Happy End"
The issue was the tag being used to mean multiple things -- neither of which was actually related to "family friendly", per se. Tea makes a valid point that this isn't actually an issue, as it doesn't interfere with finding the pictures -- exactly the reason not to remove it from either type, and that sort of legitimate reason not to go ahead was the reason I asked about it first.
Thank you, Theodoric, but I'd gathered that by this point. And Tea had explained why it wasn't really an issue, which I accepted. Further input was not really necessary.
Still confused why people think this was a pro-"Family Friendly" crusade, when under my proposed revision of the tag, most of the pics falling under it still would not have been family friendly, though.
@Tea: I guess they didn't... poweryoga and endearth's comment's seemed to imply that, but I'm notoriously bad at inference, so I guess I just jumped the gun, especially with my not feeling well. I apologize for the kerfuffle, and hope to drop this discussion now that the issue is resolved.
Note to self: Should probably take a break from comments until I'm less stressed and likely to react inappropriately.
*Sigh.* Once again, the problem was no with people disagreeing with me. You disagreed with me, but I ultimately agreed with you after evaluating your points. These people didn't seem to understand my argument and seemed to think it was about "family friendly" or "traditional" happy endings under the tag, when it was about specific text contained within the image... and one persisted in treating it as being about "family friendly" even after clarification. That was what was upsetting to me.
And I also never claimed there was a crusade against me. I claimed they believed I was engaging in a crusade against the prevalence of violence-related images on the board.
For the record: I don't like yukkuri violence. At all. I don't care if other people like it, though, nor do I care that it is on this imageboard -- it has every right to be, and the only issue are the occasional conflicts between pro-violence and pro family friendly posters, which I just find obnoxious and tiresome.
Now, can we drop this, please? Even if it's largely my fault due to misreading others, this is the second time a comment thread I've posted in has erupted into a drama vortex, and it's getting annoying -- for me, at least.
>>this is the second time a comment thread I've posted in has erupted into a drama vortex, and it's getting annoying Take it easy, Nezumi! This happens all the time when it comes to Yukkuri violence: take a look at the comments in these pictures for a sample post #12377, post #14731 So get yourself comfortable... and enjoy the show!
post #7071post #3845post #3818post #3909 is not family-friendly. these yukkuris look happy/force to happy by sacrifice something. post #1420 due lose all wife and kid.Yukkuri escape to take easy by herself.happy end is scarcastic. post #3845post #3909 yukkuri die.where is family-friendly. post #7071 yukkuri was torture while have always-smile fake face. All this was that kind of happy end(for yukkuri hater)
EndEarth, the only one I claimed was Family-Friendly was the last one -- I mentioned all the others weren't.
The last one actually is intended as a family-friendly edit of the series you mentioned -- cutting out all the context to make it look like a legitimately happy yukkuri and labelling it "Happy End."
And... post #1420... the happy end isn't actually sarcastic. The pic isn't actually family-friendly, due to all the dead yukkuris... but the story establishes that the Marisa starts over with her new Patchouli and makes a happy life for herself despite the previous disaster.
my point is all those pictures is satisfied us violence-on-yukkuri lover. Which is happy end to us.So putting Happy_end tag on those picture is reasonably logic.