Im the same way, its a love hate relationship for me. I love how yukkuri look when depressed and teary eyed, but I sometimes hate myself for enjoying a story that is about yukkuri getting abused who dont deserve it.
Well sometimes yukkuri make some really weird, funny or interesting faces while in emotional high peaks, like they exagerate all their features without reaching Cartoon levels of eye ballooning or mouth opening beyond the impossible or anything similar (well with exception of 1 artist that do give his yukkuris that kind of eyes and such, but the guy is like the only one.)
It's not that weird for to get a fixation for such expressions out of how bizarre, weird and even ridiculous they look. You can say it's the interest on the Odd and Bizarre and yukkuris are way like that.
hellopie said: Im the same way, its a love hate relationship for me. I love how yukkuri look when depressed and teary eyed, but I sometimes hate myself for enjoying a story that is about yukkuri getting abused who dont deserve it.
Wall of text time? Wall of text time.
It's because the pic doesn't give you what I'd call the 'convenient lack of doubt'. Unless you are someone who loves only FF, I assume you are here to see some violence too. But since society and conventions want you to restrain yourself since from when you were a little kid, you cannot enjoy your violence dose at its fullest unless you find a way to cope with those. That's why Deibus exist: they are conveniently bad (and according to some author irredimable), so people have no problems when they see them abused in multiple ways, despite the evident lack of fairness in whatever most the Misters do.
In cases like this one, however, where no Deibu is around, the author seems to tell you that there's something else - and most importantly he plays a 'dirty trick'.
He seems to tell you that things are not that simple, and that your crave for violence will leave something behind, something completely broken and suffering. A poor, innocent yukkuri. Your crave for violence has a price, but you won't be the one to pay. YOU MONSTER.
The dirty trick is the following one: there isn't the 'convenient ass-pull'. You secretly crave for yukkuris' suffering? Okay. You want to see something cry? No problem, you'll have it. But you won't be able to shelter yourself with the illusion that everything is somehow right, with the hideous lie that the object of the suffering has, somehow, deserved it.
Ways how not to hate yourself and eventually join the dark side: 1 you realise that they are just images of fictional beings and that you are not forced to feel bad or whatever. It would be kinda ridiculous otherwise, we are on the internet so let's turn off the brain and enjoy the abuse.
2 you realise that your craving for tears and suffering is part of you, like it could be for liking only blonde girls or liking melon-flavoured icecreams... and that you should accept that part of yourself instead of feeling guilty about something you didn't search for. Accept yourself, be honest with yourself and let's enjoy the abuse.
3 you realise that, incredibly enough, your internal struggle makes you more human since you satisfy your internal cravings without forgetting who you are, or your sense of pity. Let's enjoy abuse, but without forgetting who we really are.
just kidding, YUKKURIS ARE LIVING BEINGS and you are nothing more than a MONSTER
Or again they just like the weird faces yukkuri make while in high emotional peaks but they still have some degree of preferences about their fictional manjuus dealing or the kind of violence they enjoy.
Plus there is the whole thing of "is this a serious work or a non serious work?" some people can get a laugh with comedic sociopathy in non serious work, but in serious work they would see the same things as disgusting or repelled by the same actions, double standars? maybe, is that wrong? not at all.
And that without embarking in the many other reasons or interests people have in yukkuris. The buns at this point had developed a Lore that had long ago lead to more complex reasons to outclass the simplistic idea that people either "Love Yukkuris" or "Love (to Hurt) Yukkuris", the days the meme was as simple as the manjuu's mindset are long over.
It's not real, so a sense of guilt isn't appropriate here. However, for me this doesn't mean I should "join the dark side" and laugh it off as not serious, or convince myself that it's OK because they're shitheads, or otherwise try to diminish the emotional impact. I can both be fascinated by the violence and empathize with the suffering yukkuri.
We have been enjoying completely innocent and sweet yukkuris getting tortured since way before deibu. In a way, it's more exciting to see the innocent ones getting tortured, a guilty pleasure.
I think I may have worded it wrong there, I dont enjoy abuse stories for all the violence, I enjoy them for the actual story itself. Take the High Grade Petshop Reimu for example, while that story had a lot of abuse and torture, I thoroughly enjoyed it for the drama and the psycological twist at the end.
Violence adds to the story most of the time though, filling in empty voids and also leading up to the climax by sometimes using provocation. But that does'nt necessarily mean that I am opposed to all types of abuse. I absolutely love constant teasing, and making them go from a happy optimistic family to a terrified train wreck. Though that may be because I am a sucker for sad stories.
That said I think people can see me as the type that is opposed to overall abuse, and that is true. But I can easily withhold my opinions from bursting out whenever I comment on abuse stories, only posting things like earlier whenever im trying to add my own input in a way that will not bash on the story. Because I know people have different opinions than I do and I respect that.
After all that, I agree with JIE on the part about liking the facial expressions on extremely terrified or depressed yukkuris. Kiri's yukkuri make me HNNNNNGGG on every page, and the way he draws them when their sad just gives me moegasms.
Made me lol, since I can imagine myself doing that.
Mine is not a critic nor an opposing comment, exactly as your first comment Hellopie. Actually yours was thought inducing, hence my wall.
Do I sound aggressive in my posts? Or is the comment's lenght intimidating? It's not the first time that it happens, kinda strange since it's not my intention.
Mine's just an invite... to join the other side. Yufufufufu...
Heh, I too have no intention of any of these posts to appear aggressive. I was simply throwing in my opinion as to why the dark side may be tad too dark for me.
I don't really know where I was going with that post lol, I think I may have been attempting to gather in opinions as to how other people view violence in stories if it's in any other way than just hurry violence!
Okay screw the Dark Side, everybody come to the Grey Center with me, we have Cheeeeeeeeeeeeese!
And Delicious Manjuus and Nikumans that aren't dead but preserved and non "blackened" yukkuris whose mouths, eyes, accesories, etc. were taken out to make them look like average buns, no, they aren't that, they are normal buns.