It's raping time!
Really smart move, little ones.Bottom-burning time, methinks. :3
i doubt it was "intended", but you have to look where you're going...
It was intended, the actual line was "Stupid Owner should dwop dead eajy!". And in this one they're asking if he liked the beating he got.
^ typical response, if someone interrupts the fun...
also the alice on the left and patchy don't really look like they are mad at the owner, sadly i can't speak moonspeak, so i can't tell
oh, and that "typical response" was meant towards the yukkuri, not you, just in case ^^
>the alice on the left and patchy don't really look like they are mad at the owner
Patchy's ridiculing anon i think, and it's asking anon to go die soooooo. As for what Alice is saying, I'm not sure, I'll let someone better at Japanese to answer that (Or translated the strip)
Oh lawd. This is like being run over and the driver yelling at you for getting blood and dirt on his car.
But I am glad another ignorant mister has seen the light and realizes what they truly are.
^ it's more like a bicycle runing into a car, without the bicycle rider getting injuries...everyone's just mad about the other...
>But I am glad another ignorant mister has seen the light and realizes what they truly are.
arrogant "kids" ? some are that way, just as there are different ppl, so "what they truly are" is a litte too generalized, in my opinion
In clockwise order, starting from the top:-Did itch hurch, mishter? Reimu's punichment hurch a lot, choo! PWUFFFFF!!-Thatch right! Stupid Owner who bulliej Aliche's fwienj should dwop dead eajy!-Mukyun! Itch sheems stupid Owner is in choo much pain and can'ch move!-It's je Patchy team's victowy!-Aliche haj never losht a fight, you know!? Aliche ish gweat, you know!?-It'ch choo late cho apwologize!-Aliche's shisters are scawy when they'we angwy!
I just thought, wouldn't it be somewhat shocking if he broke into tears and apologized or something? Not going to happen, of course, unless he wants to mindfuck them.
thx for the translation, now we need one for the first two pages.
i can understand the koyukkuris, if he just punished the reimu without telling it (and the others too) what and why it got punished...while the little reimu might know, to the others it might seem as a random act of bullying (one of the koyukkuri says here "Thatch right! Stupid Owner who bulliej Aliche's fwienj should dwop dead eajy!"). it would make their actions "understandable", yet not acceptable.
Some background, since this is an ongoing SS.
Mister has an alice and patchy that gave birth to 4 kids. One day mister rescued a little Reimu and brought her home, and they've been living together since. The reason they used the sui~ car to ram into mister is because when the little Alice was born, she got ran over by it and was severely injured, so they thought it was a really scary thing. So patchy thought up of the revenge idea of ramming into mister with the sui~ car.
So from the beginning, they wanted to cause mister grievous harm. They wanted to get revenge on mister for "hurting their little sister". These little yukkuris are garbage even when they're so little, who knows what they'll be like if they're allowed to grow up?
You can still "understand the yukkuris" even after knowing that? I can't. You assume these idiots can actually understand the reasons behind why they're being punished. You're treating them as if they have the intelligence of a small child, or the learning capabilities.
@poweryoga:On which uploader? I read that it's 1993.txt IIRC, but I seem to be looking on the wrong uploader.
>You can still "understand the yukkuris" even after knowing that?
i didnt know "the background" you mentioned here. could you provide a number to the main story, can't seem to find it.
>You assume these idiots can actually understand the reasons behind why they're being punished. You're treating them as if they have the intelligence of a small child, or the learning capabilities.
at least the patchy is one of the yukkuri types with "higher intelligence" for yukkuri standards, so yes, i assume that, IF their owner thought them about "right or wrong".if he didnt, then i "can understand" the thought process of getting revenge on their owner, cause it would seem as an (random) act of bullying.
Anon punishing all of them by starving them for 3 days. (just because koReimu accidently broke a cup?) but they look fine and looking for revenge..
its in the waterducts uploader. There's a lot to go through though and I can't remember which .txt it is, I just know that its not 1993... maybe we're looking at different uploaders? Sorry I can't be of more help, I stopped saving the texts from the SS because there's just too many. :(
So lets put it this way. Patchy, the types with "higher intelligence", planned out this revenge, which is intended to cause grievious injury to their owner, the one that feeds and shelters them. If their owner is truly such a bad owner, why would he even bother to save the Reimu to add to their big family? To put it into a better context, their parents are well educated from the anon. Is it the failure of their yukkuri-parents or the failure of the anon that their kids are garbage? We all know yukkuris learn the best from their parents like any wild animal, so I can hardly see the anon being at fault here. The koyukkuris didn't consider why they were punished, and instead jumped straight to planning revenge. This sort of "intelligence" is exactly why people torture and abuse yukkuris, because they deserve it.
i never said it was a bad owner (well, considering the way he punished the koreimu, he might be :P ), i just said, if he didnt tell the reimu why it got punished, there might me some missing understanding on reimu's side (and the other koyukkuris), thus the revenge planning.
So, lets put it that way, Anon got his little yukkuri family together. He keeps the educational part to the parent yukkuris, that's ok, but as kids are, they wanna explore their surroundings and the parent yukkuris judging the house as safe, don't keep watch over every koyukkuri 24/7, which resulted in the accident in with the cup/bowl.
So whose fault is it, the 2 parents yukkuris, who should keep watch over 5 koyukkuris or the little reimu who just wanted to play/rub with the bowl or the owner, who, if he's a "good" owner, should at least read one or two things about keeping (ko)yukkuris and that they tend to break stuff, if left roaming ? Answer: all of the 3. the parent yukkuris should have looked more after their little ones, these should have listened more to their parents, but still, their owner should have kept them "confined" in a adequat living box and waited till they were more thoughtful or he could have explored the house together with them bit by bit(just to name 2 educational methods).
well, lets continue, the bowl is broken, it's punishment time. but what punishment to choose... physical punishment is, in my opinion, the least one to choose. there are a handful of others(isolation, foodshortage, for example) which come to mind. he could also have told it to the parent yukkuri and left the punishment to them(considering the short memory span of yukkuris not the best idea, but they are their kids after all). he chose physical punishment, where we come back to the beginning of my littl wall-o-text. ^^
As a little comparison, in normal life if a dog doesnt act, like it should (fetch a stick), you don't hit the dog for not knowing, it's the owner who should teach them/give them guidance to do so. Same with parents and kids.
>>should at least read one or two things about keeping (ko)yukkuris and that they tend to break stuff, if left roaming And yukkurium sales go through the roof.
He chose all three, slapping reimu then food shortag and isolation, but as a group. He did want them to understand their punishment as a group so they won't repeat it but it seems to have back fired.
^It makes perfect sense though. For a child, punishment - parent = oppressor. No matter how good anon's intentions, they will see him as evil.
For a child, punishment + parent also = oppressor. I'm not trying to negate your point, simply saying that's the way a child's mind works. They dislike anyone who gets in the way of their instant gratification.
^But the parent is also the symbol of love, care and shelter. Who does this oniisan think he is, spanking them, fasting them and suddenly thinking they'll respond to his warmth?These ones obviously have better memories than Yuudoro's koyukkuri.
^He feeds them, shelters them and to an extent love and care for them. However they do not attribute it to him only as food-provider-on-demand and attribute all the other points to their larger versions. Their better memories doesn't give them better understanding.
As such kill the parents at birth so they will correctly attribute all the above symbols to the owners as those squishable things in stalk amputation series had done. Or simply do not accept strays of unknown lineage.
>(well, considering the way he punished the koreimu, he might be :P )
Second strip shows him coming back into the room with better food than normal and a large dish of orange juice so they can get nourished, that can't be bad now eh?
In which section are yukkuris found?
Your dog also doesn't try to rip out your throat if you punish it for breaking something. They also know if they did something bad, but these koyukkuris don't. If you want to play equivalences, ripping out (the dog's owner) the throat is the equivalence of ramming into their owner with the most deadly thing they know. Lets use your viewpoint. Misunderstanding or not, the fact that they didn't try to understand why their owner punished them and instead went straight to trying to seriously hurt or kill their owner is unforgivable. Could the parents have taken better care of their kids? Maybe, but lets take into consideration a few things. It's not possible for anon nor the parents to look over their kids 24/7, its up to the EDUCATION of the koyukkuris, much like any other pets, to make sure they know what's right and wrong. I hardly think sentient talking manjus fall under a traditional pet treatment.
Exploring as a koyukkuri? Fine. Breaking some stuff in the house? Yeah, that happens but you teach them why that's a bad thing to do, even if the method of punishment for the broken bowl was maybe a bit harsh, the koyukkuris should've known why they were punished since they were around when the bowl got broken. Comparing an act of playing (fetch a stick) to breaking something (even if its unintentionally) is somewhat ridiculous.
The bottom line is the mister took good care of their parents so that they were able to have kids, saved a Reimu from certain death, and this is how the kids repaid his kindness from a little punishment. Disgusting doesn't begin to describe these little koyukkuris.
>>If you want to play equivalences, ripping out (the dog's owner) the throat is the equivalence of ramming into their owner with the most deadly thing they know.You don't seem to have much experience with dogs. If you beat it and starve it for a week, it will in fact try to rip out your throat.Also, sense of scale is incredibly important. If a 5 year old hits you in the face as hard as he possibly can, you arn't going to call it a murder attempt even though he's doing all in his power to harm you. Retaliation in kind is unreasonable (unless you hate kids as much as I do and could get away with it).
Poweryoga, I half agree with what you say. However, if mister never expressed that breaking things is bad how would the little ones know they were being punished? Most yukkuris have no sense of right and wrong; they barge into houses and break everything in sight. You can't punish someone until they know what's right and wrong. You punish someone when they know what they did was wrong, otherwise you get confusion and misplaced anger.
Animals do understand when they did something wrong, domesticated animals that is. They often droop their heads and go sit in a corner and they will take the punishment. That's different from starving and constantly beating the animal, though.
I don't think scale is important, only the intent. Because if children are not properly socialized they will maintain the same intent but be armed with guns and cars on. Some kids are already killing their parents with guns that their parents are foolish enough to leave laying around.
Everyone is over-analyzing this, though. Mister punished a child and its siblings thought their sister was being bullied. That's all. No need for lengthy discourse.
I like those kilometric comments about the inner nature and the philosophical essence of the life of yukkuris.
Um, yeah if you constantly beat and starve your dog of course it fights back. Did you even read my post? I already said anon takes good care of them, all he did was punish Reimu and starved them for 3 days and they tried to kill (yukkuri standards) him in return. This is the "disproportionate" response I'm talking about. As for knowing the punishment.... I'd say punishing Reimu infront of the broken bowl and telling them because of what they did they don't get food for 3 days is a good measure of "what they did wrong".
Having a yorkie and a golden retriever myself... I'd say I understand dogs pretty well.
They ran into his foot with A SUII. It barely even registered to anon. The responses people are suggesting range from paralyzation to torture to death. You think that's proportional? They're koyukkuri. None of them can be older than two weeks old. Anon is attempting the equivilant of trying to teaching a mentally retarded baby.
They're at least a month old since the stray's been with them for a month.
@sunIf they don't know right or wrong, punish them to start the teaching of right and wrong. They may equate what they just did with the consequence of punishment which may be why the broken bowl is still in same punishment panel. If they persist, punish them more.
I see we don't have a lot of pet owners here. Although I should probably thank goodness for that.
Again, being an all assuming ass. Do you have anything to contribute to the board besides stupid comments?
By the way, please separate yukkuris from your real life.
...On another note!
<-It'ch choo late cho apwologize!>It's too late to apologize~ It's too laaate~...I'm sorry.
I'd separate the Patchy and explain to it that the Reimus and Alices are vermin. Hopefully try to indoctrinate it.
>>They ran into his foot with A SUII. It barely even registered to anon.
Didn't I read earlier that they thought the Sui would Kill anon after seeing what it did to one of their sisters?
Eye for an Eye, I say, even though they can't really pick out our eyes very well.
"By the way, please separate yukkuris from your real life."
Ironic statement is ironic.
It just occurred to me, if they're attacking Mister just for punishing Reimu, I wonder what they think of their parents now.
>> Ironic statement is ironic.
Clearly you don't know what ironic means. Please go look it up in the dictionary.
@Drop Dead Easy
"It's not too late. It's never too late."