"A tiny little blob of adorable just crawled into my hand and lovingly rubbed her cheek against it. What should I do... I know! I'll throw her in the skillet!"
And somehow, the yukkuris are the ones who are evil and wrong.
We don't think they are evil and wrong. They are merely a reflection of our own nature, thus we hate them, for in them, we see ourselves: selfish,arrogant, greedy, yet ultimately helpless and at the mercy of greater powers.
Thus we abuse these beings, torture them for our own pleasure as we see fit.
they're a blight that needs to be exterminated. they consume and breed without any end in sight. They steal crops and drive out local wildlife. No they're not evil but they need to be destroyed.
This anon is amazing. And this is even more cruel than "Reimu's mute children", IMHO. Not just physical, but psychological torture as well. And he just keeps healing it so he can have even more fun. Abhorrently cruel and utterly hilarious at the same time.
Killer: I actually like yukkuris. My point was that a lot of anons justify torture of yukkuris by saying that yukkuris are evil, when it's clear from their actions that said anons are themselves the evil ones, not the yukkuris.
Of all the words I've used to describe yukkuris, I don't think I've ever used evil. "Stupid" and "vermin", sure. Because they are stupid vermin, and are selfish, greedy and destructive to boot.
"Wrong", since the very concept of a creature like a yukkuri is offensive, in that they shouldn't exist. People see things that shouldn't exist and react in extreme manners. (I know they don't, but still.)
"Evil", though, they're not. Being evil suggests that they have the mental capacity for evil, which they don't.
Termites, locusts, rats and other such things which yukkuris are similar to are destructive vermin, but they're not evil. Which doesn't mean that they shouldn't be destroyed for being vermin.
Although, come to think of it, the smart reimu in DOS's story, when given the capacity for intelligence, naturally gravitated towards evil. And the flandre in M1's Orphan Alichu would fit the bill, too. So maybe the yukkuris are evil argument has some weight afterall.
^I kinda find it funny that people say for yukkuri that they're "unnatural" or "they shouldn't exist". A Gensokyo creature...unnatural? God forbid! XD But all rationalisations are ultimately futile. We just like to watch them suffer because we're sick fucks. :3 In my case, Yukkuri torture fantasies are my vent for everyday frustrations. I like to imagine these cretures get hurt in a way that I'd like to hurt particularly offensive specimens of humanity. Any other reason for liking this stuff is really a window dressing, IMHO.
>A Gensokyo creature...unnatural? God forbid! Other Gensokyo creatures, be they fairies, spider girls or nuclear-powered hell ravens, are much easier to accept than bouncing balls of bean paste.
>We just like to watch them suffer because we're sick fucks. There's a way to test that, actually.
How many people here who enjoy seeing yukkuris suffer enjoyed watching Judge Doom dip that squeaking toon shoe in Who Framed Roger Rabbit?
>like burning ants under a magnifying glass That's just sociopathy, like any other kind of IRL animal torture. >Other Gensokyo creatures, be they fairies, spider girls or nuclear-powered hell ravens, are much easier to accept than bouncing balls of bean paste. Indeed. But there's another word for this - anthropocentrism. I also find it easier to accept yukkuri if they have animal or human-like bodies. It's just a matter of biological or cultural conditioning. >There's a way to test that, actually. There was a smiley at the end of my statement. It was my unfortunate attempt of making a joke. :3 I'd say that most people who enjoy Yukkuri or Jissouseki torture just need a vent for all their pent-up anger and frustrations. There's a lot of bad shit going around nowadays.
Like I said before, yukkuris are the missing link between animals and humans. They are more fun to torture and kill than animals and you don't feel the guilt that you do with a human.
Yukkuris has allowed me to find that I have an evil side to me, a sadistic side. It's not so much about venting anger and frustration as it is about having complete power over someone. I highly dislike human selfishness, especially when it comes to families. I don't like how people value their own families and see other families and people as enemies and outsiders and are willing to kill them to continue their own survival. That's why I love reading comics like these:
Look at how this yukkuri mother is so willing to tell the anon to hurry up and catch another yukkuri to throw in the grinder but not it or its family. So, I believe that the best enjoyment from yukkuri violence comes from putting human qualities that you hate into yukkuris and then killing them because of it.
"Although, come to think of it, the smart reimu in DOS's story, when given the capacity for intelligence, naturally gravitated towards evil. "
I... don't think so. If you're talking about that comic where Yuyuko eats the babies of an Eirin-modified Reimu yukkuri... Well. The Reimu's reactions, while not exactly good and selfless, weren't really evil. She just wanted to live an "easy" life with her children, but Yuyuko forced her into extreme situations. The reason that Reimu didn't care for her children that she labeled as Yuyuko's food is because she didn't want to get attached to them, since they were going to die soon enough anyways. :/
So while not exactly a shining paragon of morality, that Reimu's actions were more neutral than evil: it was geared toward self-preservation and the safety of its own children.
Who knows how it would have reacted in an environment that didn't involve extreme emotional anguish?
What about the fact that it manipulated people into fighting each other and called someone who was trying to help it a gullible idiot. That's not exactly neutral behavior.
>So while not exactly a shining paragon of morality, that Reimu's actions were more neutral than evil: it was geared toward self-preservation and the safety of its own children.
That might make sense, were it not for the reimu trying to get Yuyuko to beat or kill Youmu, who was going out of her way to help it.
And then planning to lead a yukkuri hit squad with Youmu as a specific target for death. Again, trying to kill the person who was trying to help her.
These actions more clearly fall into the category of evil.
"And then planning to lead a yukkuri hit squad with Youmu as a specific target for death. Again, trying to kill the person who was trying to help her."
Ah, I did not remember that part. It was a while since I've read it, but now that I reread it, i do get your point here.
However, I don't think that smart Reimu is necessarily indicative of the "whole" of yukkurikind. Like with the Marisa from the previous story by the same artist. :/
^ The point was that while the average yukkuri is too dumb to be capable of being trully evil, there is still some evil streak in their design.
Notice how often the dumb yukkuris gravitate towards the negative actions, especially killing. It's not an act of evil by itself, but it's a clue. And their instincts are full of what people consider bad features.
And when they created an exceptionally smart yukkuri, one smart enough to be capable of true good and evil, pretty much automatically turned evil.
"And when they created an exceptionally smart yukkuri, one smart enough to be capable of true good and evil, pretty much automatically turned evil."
I still somewhat contend that the bad environment (Yuyuko's house) may have tipped the scales to evil. Then again, it -was- a Light-esque yukkuri, so who knows...
FJH: Also note that the decent yukkuri have -also- been killed by a lot of humans. :/
Like that one Marisa and Reimu who know that stealing from vegetable gardens is bad and were having children, but then the children had their eyes plucked out by humans.