There are no Yukkuri "facts" that have become the absolute in the fandom. What we know (see more often in fandom) is this:
- The most important things in a Yukkuri's Yu-Life is its accesories/hat and taking it easy. A hatless yukkuri becomes a pariah and will be attacked by other yukkuris. - A Yukkuri reaches maturity in 2 months or so. - Yukkuri reproduce by the dozen in order to compensate for their high mortality rate. - Yukkuri, although weak, are highly resilient and can stand a lot of damage before dying. - Yukkuri might recover from crippling/death blows if submerged in orange juice. - Spicy food is poisonous for almost all Yukkuri, except for Meiling and Sanae types. - Curry help Yukkuri grow bodies. - Bodied Yukkuri exist. Mutation/Adaptation? Bodied Yukkuris tend to be smarter than their unbodied counterparts. - Yukkuri intelligence and behavior varies enormously, and does not seem dependent on generics or enviroment. - Bodied Yukkuri can and will engage in sexual/intimate relationships with humans. - Rarely, Yukkuri-Human hybrids are born.
yukiyuzen said: With the exception of your first point, pretty much everything you listed is NOT accepted by the mainstream. (Curry helps yukkuri grow bodies? Wtf?)
Works for me. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger and a yukkuri that manages to survive a plate of spicy stuff growing a body? Sure, why not?
You probably shouldn't appoint yourself speaker for the yukkuri fandom.
starshine said: Works for me. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger and a yukkuri that manages to survive a plate of spicy stuff growing a body? Sure, why not?
You probably shouldn't appoint yourself speaker for the yukkuri fandom.
When did I appoint myself anything?
I'm just pointing out how things his listed were wrong.
Spicy curry is considered to be fatal to non-spicy/non-Sanae types. Look it up. "Dozens" of offspring at one time is portrayed as fatal for the mother due to nutritional demands. See death by raper. I have yet to see a story where orange juice can save a yukkuri if you take out its paste core, remove 99.9% of its paste and char all of its skin. Etc, etc, etc.
yukiyuzen said: With the exception of your first point, pretty much everything you listed is NOT accepted by the mainstream. (Curry helps yukkuri grow bodies? Wtf?)
It looks like he copied/paraphased the yukkuri attribute list from touhouwiki's yukkuri page.
Considering that wiki doesn't specialize in yukkuri and only has a single page full of gleaned knowledge on the meme its likely a lot of those "facts" on the page are from oneshot pictures/stories/etc or are just flat out mistranslations/misconceptions that haven't been corrected or removed since that wiki doesn't place enough value in the meme's fanon to clean the page up.
I'm just pointing out how things his listed were wrong.
To you maybe. There isn't any one true/right definition of yukkuri biology/behavior. Commonly accepted points, yes. Hard Truths, no.
Spicy curry is considered to be fatal to non-spicy/non-Sanae types. Look it up.
Look it up where? The out of date, frequently vandalized yukkuri wikia? No thanks. Also, counterpoint: spicy things are not fatal, just dangerous. Larger yukkuris can handle it (barely).
"Dozens" of offspring at one time is portrayed as fatal for the mother due to nutritional demands. See death by raper.
Plenty of drawings where with tons of babies.
I have yet to see a story where orange juice can save a yukkuri if you take out its paste core, remove 99.9% of its paste and char all of its skin. Etc, etc, etc.
Only because nobody's written it yet. Also your example pretty farfetched and looks deliberately constructed so as to be unanswerable.
Then again, if somebody comes up with a convincing explanation, I'd (and probably others) buy it.
Ok, I'll entertain you. I need to take a break from writing yukkuri-speak anyway.
starshine said: To you maybe. There isn't any one true/right definition of yukkuri biology/behavior. Commonly accepted points, yes. Hard Truths, no.
Yukkuri-human hybrids is not a commonly accepted point.
Look it up where? The out of date, frequently vandalized yukkuri wikia? No thanks. Also, counterpoint: spicy things are not fatal, just dangerous. Larger yukkuris can handle it (barely).
So you ignore the yukkuri wikia and use the Touhou wikia because the yukkuri wikia is outdated?
Plenty of drawings where with tons of babies.
Yeah, and? Human teachers are frequently surrounded by a ton of children. Does that mean the teacher had all those children?
Only because nobody's written it yet. Also your example pretty farfetched and looks deliberately constructed so as to be unanswerable.
Then again, if somebody comes up with a convincing explanation, I'd (and probably others) buy it.
Do you even know what a paste core is? The answer is pretty obvious.
ukshadow said: yukiyuzen, The story in [37192] is one, but I am very sure I have seen other stories besides this one, be it art or SS.
starshine said: Look it up where? The out of date, frequently vandalized yukkuri wikia? No thanks. Also, counterpoint: spicy things are not fatal, just dangerous. Larger yukkuris can handle it (barely).
Inb4 THEY WOULDN'T HAVE DIED IF THEY WERE TREATED! A lot of things wouldn't be fatal if they were treated in time, like losing a limb or a bullet to the heart...
starshine said: Plenty of drawings where with tons of babies.
Most which are oneshots, never showing the consequences of the amount of children. Think of a human family with a crap ton of kids, how long do those last? The most successful living families in stories have 1-4 kids. Think of how much a single koyukkuri can eat. Now think of feeding the same amount for 10 more koyukkuri and the two parents. A single hunting parent can not keep up with the workload. They would have to resort to extreme measures...like stealing from other families or worse...MISTER HUMANS.
starshine said: Only because nobody's written it yet. Also your example pretty farfetched and looks deliberately constructed so as to be unanswerable.
The orange juice thing is actually pretty simple if you think about it. How much orange juice would you need in order to completely heal something like that? One can seems to be enough to bring a near death adult back to consciousness and minimal activity (See Yun-Donuts), so you would need a LOT more where that came from to heal a YUkkuri who had its core dmged, paste removed, and burned black. But what do some artist say about dumping your yukkuri into a vat of orange juice?
yukiyuzen said: You guys are bad at this. Lrn2troll.
Glad to know having a different opinion from Grand Arbiter of Yukkuri Canon, yukiyuzen the First has now been deemed "trolling." What a wise decision. All hail yukiyuzen! Defender of the Truth! All hail!
harouki said: Orange Juice and Yukkuri heal methods argument
I present my counter argument. Flour can be used to patch their skin, but it is not always necessary. Simple lathing the orange juice (post #30181), submerging (post #37823) or pouring (post #33895) are more than enough according to several artists. Long term exposure, as explained by Ayazou himself, does make their skin melt.
Relax. All the points ukshadow brought up have been mentioned at one point or another in one picture or another. Obviously nothing in yukkuri fandom are to be taken as fact.
The human-yukkuri hybrid types though I haven't heard mentioned anywhere else other than ankos. Sure, "one" is not common but you can always write it off as a "rare occurrence." No need to get defensive or offensive about "the facts" since there are none.
Also, most of us here know that the yukkuri wikia is useless AND filled with random tidbits not even found in ankos or pictures, so don't use it as a source or anything.
^That. Take a chill pill. Ok, so to heal a yukkuri, we've seem orange juice or flour used: sometimes, just the OJ is enough, sometimes flour is needed, sometimes the yu is healed just with flour. The facts are, sometimes something happens, the opposite of that will have happened somewhere else, and then the opposite of that will have happened... and so on...
The facts simply change as they need to, although there are of course common occurrences (and even those can be rocky). Arguing over what might happen to a yukkuri in a situation, really boils down to arguing over opinion and personal experience.
Also, most of us here know that the wikia is useless AND filled with random tidbits not even found in fandom works, so don't use it as a source or anything.