We can only hope for this particular train of thought to be an evolutionary dead end. Jissouseki and Yukkuri are on the opposite sides of the Awesome Scale. Swift death to the Jissous! High fives/cheek-pseudopods to the Yukkuri! Unless they're Alices, you wouldn't want to touch them under the best of circumstances, and approaching Ayakkuri may be actively detrimental to your health!
Let's see now... Horrible mutation of a popular character? Check. Rudeness? Check. Filth? Check. Plump, humanoid body? Check. Mental processes of a 2-year old toddler? Check. They only need to start eating their own shit and devour their young and we have a winner here!
These are different from bodied yukkuri why? Nobody draws the mamumamu on the neck anyways. These are like bodied remirya, but with different characters (They often give birth to bodied koyukkuri).
Ye gawds. SUN, get your facts straight. XD As a rule, Yukkuri DON'T devour their young nor do they eat their feces, unless they're desperate or misled. Jissou have huge litters and they eat most of their grubs. And they enjoy eating their own shit. However disgusting Yukkuri might be, they can't hold a candle to Jissous.
Agreeing with User: This. This really isn't anything new. The only thing that makes it look different is the fact that the characters in question don't really look that much like Yukkuri at all. Really, if the Reimu-type wasn't in this situations (i.e. She was just standing there with Marisa), any body with only a passing knowledge of Yukkuri would think it was the Real Reimu.
I miss when Yukkuri just took it easy. This biology shit (PeniPeni, MamuMamu, 300 different ways of birthing, mutation) just seems unnecessary and really annoying.
I agree, Sock. Japan just can't seem to keep its genitals and excretory organs from anything, can it. And that brings on people who hate on Yukkuri because all they focus on are the crappy Spike-TV-era-Ren-and-Stimpy-esque toilet humor.
I like my Yukkuris, in general, cute and weird. Emphasis on the cute, triple emphasis on the weird.
I agree too. I dislike mamu-mamus and peni-penis but I love the psychology of the yukkuris and how they reflect all the worst of humanity but little of the good. Yukkuris are like a mirror for people to see their own dark hearts, their greed, their superficiality, etc. A person realizes, that without love, self-control, and morality, they are nothing but a bodied yukkuri. Truly shocking.
I have to admit that the psychological aspects are actually what I like the least about Yukkuri. I've always liked the fact that, even though Yukkuri had human features and speech, everything else about them was the exact opposite. They defied logic and reason with each appearance they made. There was no clear explanation for anything about them, and even the stuff that tried to made no sense (lol beanpaste). They were anything they (or the author) wanted themselves to be. Nothing confined their existence. They could be tanks, planes, the building blocks of entire wolds, ANYTHING. They were, as characters, beyond definition. And they were really funny to boot. They were not human, they were not animals, they were Yukkuri, because they liked to take it easy. So with this wonderful, wonderful meme, what did people do? People that didn't like the meme as it was, broke their backs making up bullshit definitions for them. Now all of the sudden, Yukkuri have babies, they had defined personalities (often geared toward giving authors an excuse to torture them instead of making user laugh), the felt pain as humans would, they suffered emotional trauma humans would, they feared and hated like human do; and to top it off, they were made to be STUPID. They took something wonderfully strange and funny, and turned it into YET ANOTHER symbol for humans. People pushed their anger, their hate for their fellow man, and their fears on the Yukkuri, reducing them to be just another another animal. They became no better than Jissousekis, and this is what pisses me off about things as they are now. I admit, I'm don't like torture or guro at all. But I can ignore torture by itself, even if it's the majority of what is made nowadays. But people pushing definitions on something that is indefinable, for the simple sake of torture, is simply rage worthy. The push for definition is what causes shit like PeniPeni and MamuMamu in the first place, and it is, in my opinion, making the meme worse.
Sure, some may say that definitions made the meme last longer; and they would be right.But if modern gaming has taught me anything, it's that it is better to have a satisfying game that lasts for an hour, but you can come back to for a life time, than to have a game that lasts for Eighty hours, but is packed with filler and you never want to touch it after it's done.
The previous paragraph was a clusterfuck, but meh, that's just how I feel.
Yukkuri, and you may wish to sit down, represented the best in humanity: Our ability to take it easy. The world is, durr, deathly serious, and we are tiny, insignificant things in it, a weird form of life uniquely aware of how insignificant and temporary we are. Civilization, religion, art: all are attempts to try and make a lasting impression, to live longer, to affect more people, to engrave one's name on eternity in some way or another. Out of this need to be rises hostility and fear at the unknowable and the unknown. This essential fear is the root of all human ills--desire for blissful ignorance, desire for power over one's brothers and sisters, desire to consume without regard for anyone or anything.
In contrast, we have the Yukkuri. They take it easy. They're ridiculous blobby head monsters that act ridiculously, pursue whatever bizarre impulse they get (from skating around on little pink boards to dropping in on the moon to having weird little families despite having no obvious means of reproduction). Their motto? "Take it easy!"
What a marvelous thing.
Yukkuri are the wonder and beauty of the unknown. They're awesome little cats that get it. They're pudding-like librarians that burble mournful "Mukyuu..."s. How the hell do they get around? However they feel like it: by scooting, by bouncing, by skating on suiis, by flying in U-packs... shipping boxes with faces and wings. They're probably full of bean paste. Why? Who knows.
We as a species need to take it easy. We need to stop snapping at each other for sleights real and perceived, stop killing each other over the stupidest things imaginable. We need to live as the Yukkuri: taking it easy with each other, having crazy misadventures exploring the cosmos. We are just as ridiculous as Yukkuri--thinking apes with power unmatched among our fellow animals. If we could take it easy as the Yukkuri take it easy, laugh at our faults and be enthralled by our otherness and our oddity, and by the otherness and oddity of the universe. We could finally achieve what our species has dreamed of from the beginning--to live long and happily, to etch our names in the stars.
Also, adding too much fancruft and shit just makes things less intuitive and awesome. That's why movies have reboots--when the continuity gets too tangled and the plots weighed down with too much bizarre cruft. Shit and piss and rape and other attempts to degenerate Yukkuri are haranguing the meme. Simple is best:
"They're these blobby head things that take it easy. They're weird."
Hey, rambling's fine as long as you get some kind of message across. I totally see where you're coming from, really, and I can empathize with you. However, the key difference between people like me and people like you and Kn9 is that you see the yukkuris as simply a tool for laughter whereas I see them in terms of sadistic pleasure and storytelling potential. Can you understand that some people react better to sorrow and pain than laughter and joy? Without the bitterness of pain you cannot truly enjoy the sweetness of happiness.
That's why I hate this whole emo and anti-emo movement- they are both an attempt to trivialize and polarize very important aspects of our existence. They say that being sad is for losers but I say being sad is more important than being happy. What I just said wasn't about yukkuris, but a response to your comment that they existed to make you laugh. I don't know how you see them- maybe you're the kind of guy that only comes here and other sites just to get some laughs before you return to your life, but you know, I come here for sadness and sickness.
In some ways, yukkuri torture is a backlash against anime, the concept of moe, and Touhou. There is no balance- in Touhou everyone is carefree. Characters engage in massive battles but become lovers and best friends after the battle, and without a scratch on them. Yukkuris, on the other hand, die quite easily, live miserable lives, are constantly mistreated, and represent the opposite of Touhou and moe.
You say that yukkuris WERE not animal or human and now they are just representative of humans, but I say they are still not animal or human. It is more satisfying to interact with than an animal but you don't feel the guilt that you do with a human if something goes wrong.
I agree with you about games. My favorite game is Metal Gear Solid 2; it's a short game but it's intelligent and every time I play it I catch yet a new detail that I missed the other times. And then games like Final Fantasy XII- it's fun the first time but playing it again you feel like you're trudging and grinding through familiar territory.
Kn9: You say we should be more like yukkuris. People who sit all day on the couch and watch T.V. while getting fat, they take it easy. But would you ever want to be like those people? I should hope not.
Or are you saying that yukkuris represent unbridled imagination and creativity, in that they can move around as they wish? That's good, but there's no purpose. Humans need to give themselves purpose or else the fear and insanity settle in- there's no other way. Hedonists who indulge in sex, drugs, drinking, gambling, and all other habits or the sort are disgusting to me, but they are in fact taking it easy. Maybe the person who came up with yukkuris was tripping on acid.
The only reason you have the command of the English language that you do and don't talk like a retard on Youtube is because you took it hard, you made yourself become a learned individual because you saw some purpose in knowing language well. Or are you saying that you just laid back on the couch and all the knowledge flew into your head?
I agree that the fear that comes from religion and nationalism are bad side effects, but there are also many good things to be found, most important of which is the sense of purpose. I used to think just like you said, about having crazy misadventures in the galaxy, but it's not the cosmos that interests me but the reactions of other creatures. I want to be loved or hated, respected or feared, but most of all acknowledged as a worthwhile entity.
Between choosing fun or choosing pain, I would choose pain. Pain gives me something to aim for, to get revenge, to rise above the pain, to become stronger and smarter, but I would see a goal and dedicate all my efforts into it. Taking it easy is for the meek.
Humor, for example, comes from all the machinations we have entrapped ourselves in, along with our fears, mistakes, and ignorance. Without all these things, humor would consist of watching people fart all day.
^watching people fart never makes me laugh. Vulgarness isn't funny to everybody. And humor is the overspend of wit, not just fun. Totally agreed with Sock & Kn9 Now I miss those early yukkuris, the style jps called "chaotic style" featuring parodies and randomness jokes, when yukkuris were weird/supernatural beings, not stupid/dirty/weak/arrogant little talkable animals waiting to be crushed. Early yukkuri violence was interesting. But putting hard animal/human-like biologies on them is really boring, at least much less creative. that's just how I feel, like many others. Ps: about 3 months ago on pooshlmer, I made some comments whose main idea was exactly the same as SUN's. Sigh~ now I've changed my mind. Yes, violence, biological settings and etc. make the meme last longer, but in my POV the meme is just changed into another, and the one I loved is fading away.
Would you guys stop hogging up the comments page length with your clusterfucks? Seriously, we need a forum for this sort of debates until one side surrenders either because they can't continue, or that they finally realizes they need to TAKE IT EASY.