Ugh, the sight of the little shits spilling food all over the place and pissing themselves as they scream their hearts out loud just make me want to kill them all. Just why do they have to loudly announce to the world every single one of their intentions in the first place, even if it means ruining the meaning of the action? (i.e. exclaiming "slowly slowly" loudly when sneaking up on something). Even if you've gotten used to their dumbassery, if you take a look once again at how they show off their world-class stupidity, you still cannot help but shake your head.
Ugh, the sight of the little shits spilling food all over the place and pissing themselves as they scream their hearts out loud just make me want to kill them all. Just why do they have to loudly announce to the world every single one of their intentions in the first place, even if it means ruining the meaning of the action? (i.e. exclaiming "slowly slowly" loudly when sneaking up on something). Even if you've gotten used to their dumbassery, if you take a look once again at how they show off their world-class stupidity, you still cannot help but shake your head.
Blame the authors who make them dumbasses in their stories -_- (as I am sure you know there are those authors who do make less stupid yus but those stories do not really appeal to the human readers who want to laugh at a inferior creature to feel good about themselves).
And yukkuri stupidity is hardly world-class. In comparison human children of 2 to 3 years old will be infinitely less capable than yukkuri when it comes to language and even reasoning. Of course there are upper limits to yukkuri intelligence once they reach a certain age and size.
Also, I've read that they shout out what they intend to do because they are seeking approval from their peers or the world. Stopping them will of course result to defiance and argument with what is essentially a retarded child with a supposed average life span of 2.5-3 years yet able to talk in any language by instinct upon birth if not retarded by their kind's own standards.
Blame the authors who make them dumbasses in their stories -_- (as I am sure you know there are those authors who do make less stupid yus but those stories do not really appeal to the human readers who want to laugh at a inferior creature to feel good about themselves).
And yukkuri stupidity is hardly world-class. In comparison human children of 2 to 3 years old will be infinitely less capable than yukkuri when it comes to language and even reasoning. Of course there are upper limits to yukkuri intelligence once they reach a certain age and size.
Also, I've read that they shout out what they intend to do because they are seeking approval from their peers or the world. Stopping them will of course result to defiance and argument with what is essentially a retarded child with a supposed average life span of 2.5-3 years yet able to talk in any language by instinct upon birth if not retarded by their kind's own standards.
if you don't like yukkuris being dumb, and you don't like yukkuris being overly fragile and tormented... why do you use this platform?
Actually, yukkuri are pretty smart despite what authors make them look like Sure, they're dumb for a human, but compared to some animals they are average They can adapt pretty much to every environment (in general, let's not go too much into the details of each type), particularly so by building houses and tools (the latter a skill only few animals have) While highly destructive, yukkuri can still use their environment like a human can (we can argue wether the destruction is included): do I have to mention how they can take a cardboard box, a plastic bag, some rocks, and make a mostly-waterproof urban house? If there's really something that makes yukkuri dumb, is their lack of foresight and long-term memory They don't really have a way to predict consequences (unless it's something ingrained deep into their nature, like how sweets bring happiness), and since they can't retain much informations, they don't really learn like animals do
On another note, the way they always announce their actions is something I like and enjoy despite everything, and if we really have to find a reason as to why they do that, I believe it's no different than a chiuaua dog barking at people They're equally annoying
If there's really something that makes yukkuri dumb, is their lack of foresight and long-term memory They don't really have a way to predict consequences (unless it's something ingrained deep into their nature, like how sweets bring happiness)
I'd call it "lack of common sense and reasoning", instead of "lack of foresight", because that'd be the direct cause.
But they have common sense and reasoning. The problem is it is yukkuri common sense and reasoning, not the ones humans want.
whether their "true" sense of reasoning is something that we human readers like or not, it wouldn't have mattered. we must not forget that yukkuris are purely works of fiction, so there's no real and objective standard on their stupidity or intelligence, common sense or lack of such. your view denying that yukkuris are stupid is, after all, just a subjective viewpoint, as much as mine advocating their dumbness. with no real way to prove whether they have common sense or not, the only solution would be to rely on what the community believes. and what the community (wants to) believe is....
that being said, nobody is attacking you for your viewpoint. the value you see in your view is just the same as that in mine. believe what you think is true.
You do not notice that you are imposing your "own" standard for what common sense and reasoning is. Yukkuris have "their" OWN common sense and reasoning which admittedly is woefully absurd if we compare it to "our" own species common sense and reasoning. But before you write them off as stupid, answer me honestly can humans 2 to 3 years old talk or even argue like yukkuris do? Can a 4 month old human baby even compare survival wise to a 4 month old koyukkuri if yukkuri were real? Can a 3 year old human child even survive better than a 6 month old yukkuri?
As for common sense, they really do have that and even more so than humans, at least in so far as the childish food-grew-on-its-own notion for most types and their own naming system where species names are quite sufficient for the most part.
"Common sense" in humanity is hardly "common" as they are entwined with the shared practices and ideas of a culture and we know just how much variation there is to human culture, now, do we?
You do not notice that you are imposing your "own" standard for what common sense and reasoning is. Yukkuris have "their" OWN common sense and reasoning which admittedly is woefully absurd if we compare it to "our" own species common sense and reasoning. But before you write them off as stupid, answer me honestly can humans 2 to 3 years old talk or even argue like yukkuris do? Can a 4 month old human baby even compare survival wise to a 4 month old koyukkuri if yukkuri were real? Can a 3 year old human child even survive better than a 6 month old yukkuri?
Now before you start on the yukkuri-are-superior-to-children tirade, you must not ignore the growth rate difference between different kinds of creature. By 2 years of age a dog would've well matured, but I don't suppose you'd call a 2-years-old toddler to be mature, correct?
The same applies to yukkuri. Normally a koyukkuri reaches maturity and leaves its parents' nest at 3 months, so let's equate it to humans' 18 years of age. So, a 3-years old child (one-sixth of the process to maturity) would have the same proportional age as a 15-days old koyukkuri. The human child can possess basic understanding of the world, of what is dangerous and what is not - of course children of this age are still very vulnerable nonetheless, and can be harmed by practically anything. On the other hand the koyukkuri can, well, jump off from a high rock thinking it's an angel, or go and demand sweets from a human while arming itself with a pointy stick. Children of this age, while having absurd reasoning and odd ways to execute a motive, would at least know that attempting to threaten the life of something that can break their neck easily would only backfire; plus they don't have genetically-ingrained racial superiority complex (the fat kids acting all high and mighty were spoiled by their extravagant environment, not by inherited belief of godhood).
Onto a different example: A 4-months old human baby would have the same growth level as that of a 2-days old koyukkuri, so both will die the moment they leave the protection of their parents. If a baby of this age can insert his/her finger into an electric socket, then no doubt a koyukkuri of similar growth would do the same. On the other hand, a yukkuri reaching 4 months of age would be equal to a working adult, so this comparison would've gotten out of the scope of the original question.
So to wrap it up, your assumed koyukkuri's superiority over human children is in fact not a difference like what you've thought, when compared in relevant proportions. More importantly, stressing on a koyukkuri's performance in relation to a human of the same age and then appreciating them for it would be like concentrating on the contravariant branch of a quadratic function's parabol. You only see it going down and do not take into consideration the bigger picture, when the value eventually goes up.
The point is humans are effectively stupider and less capable at first because they take a longer time to be even remotely functional and capable of their own survival while yus are effectively smarter and more capable relatively early in beginning of their short lives. Yus mature faster but do not progress intellectually beyond a certain point of their adult lives because of biological reasons (age/yukkuri dementia) while humans continue to develop their intelligence and acquire knowledge until a certain point of their comparatively longer lives.
Humanity takes several years of education (traditional or not) while yukkuris and other animals take a few weeks to learn what they need to survive (unless the circumstances doom them first).
Imposing your standard that human logic and reasoning should be the same standard to a creature that has a comparatively shorter life is absurdly unfair. Assuming that a yukkuri can get to the point of becoming as smart as a human being, the short lifespan it has prevents it from enjoying more varied and enriching life experiences a creature with a longer life would (unless they luck out being immortal or a long lived dosu). If yukkuri can understand physics 10x faster than average humans, that would still take them about a year just learning that stuff (base math education +advanced math + advanced physics proper).
------- Basically it goes like this,if I pull statistics out of the air, if it were an RPG:
First 10% of Yukkuri life = Int 4 = 3 to 4 mths First 10% of Human life = Int 3 = 7 yrs old First 20% of Yukkuri life = Int 5 = 6 mths First 20% of Human life = Int 6 = 14 yrs old First 33% of Yukkuri life = Int 6 = 1 yr First 33% of Human life = Int 9 = 25 yrs old First 50% of Yukkuri life = Int 7 = 1 to 1.5 yrs Last 50% of Yukkuri life = Int 8 First 50% of Human life = Int 12 - 35 yrs old 60% of Human life = Int 13 = 45 yrs old 70% of Human life = Int 14 = 52-53 yrs old ---- It is not fair to impose human standards of intellect/knowledge on a creature that reaches its capacity at an earlier stage of their lives and could not go beyond that point because of biological reasons (mobility, intelligence hard cap) and time constraints (short life span, hard scrabble existence, many existential threats).
Yukkuri are only as smart as their writer allows them to be.
The "accepted canon" still gives them more intelligence than a number of artists would give them Unless they are explicitly retarded/premature, it's in the nature of yukkuri to develop hunting techniques and to build homes, so that gives them at least a +1 in intelligence If it weren't for that, modern yukkuri would do nothing but shit and scream unintelligible sounds, having also lost the ability to talk
The "accepted canon" still gives them more intelligence than a number of artists would give them Unless they are explicitly retarded/premature, it's in the nature of yukkuri to develop hunting techniques and to build homes, so that gives them at least a +1 in intelligence If it weren't for that, modern yukkuri would do nothing but shit and scream unintelligible sounds, having also lost the ability to talk
The canon is what we understand. The fanon is what the creators do. They choose to make them unintelligent because it makes it easier to excuse the incoming abyuse. If they were that pathetic, the accepted canon would be that they went extinct. Every creature has a survival instinct.
Alright, let's cut to the chase: yukkuri are retarded beings with low intelligence, and yet they bear the facade of intellect by using human speech, so they don't deserve happiness in the slightest.
The problem is that while yukkuris speak the human tongue, they do not have the intelligence to comprehend the modern and civilized human culture, its etiquette, constraints, typical/desired behaviors and forbidden actions, nor do the typical yukkuri have the ability to articulate its ideas into ways that are socially acceptable and tactful. As a result, they communicate on the same frequency as humans, yet do not have the means to restraint their instinctive urges from oozing out in their speeches and actions.
Just a simple example, have you ever seen a non-Sanae yukkuri say "please"? (in translations. If you want to be savvy, read through the raw text and look for places where they actually say "kudasai" instead of the usual imperative/casual "-te ne" forms). I sure as hell haven't seen more than a quarter of a dozen occasions of that. Another thing, I'm sure you have never seen a sober and conscious person shitting in public, and possibly never will, but what about yukkuris? These things, bearing the facade of the complex linguistic ability of humans, would most likely shit anywhere, anytime they want, including cases in the presence of others of their kind. And they never feel ashamed about it - instead, they must always broadcast to the world about their holy poo-poo time. Even their public toilets - simple shitting holes to be exact - do not possess any kinds of cover to conceal its users, not even simple leaves to hide them. And then there's @Canttakeiteasy 's argument about koyukkuri's supposed superiority to newborn children. Well they can speak from the moment they were born, but what is the point if they cannot even control the urges that they spout out? What is the point if they cannot understand their social standing to appropriate their speech, and will talk smack to just about anything they face? Now, I'm not saying that (newborn) children are any different, but stating that newborn yukkuri are superior merely because they can speak is just bogus. There's a saying that reflects my point: "Even a child can easily speak, but learning how to speak properly can take a lifetime."
Speaking the human tongue doesn't automatically give yukkuris any worth, it only subjects them to the scrutiny of cultures that they cannot possibly fit in. They tuned into humans' communication frequency, but do not have the intelligence to be qualified for it. Thusly, their barbaric ways when broadcasted onto the human channel would only justify each and every single retribution that falls on their heads, and strip them of any and all rights and happiness that they could've had. Their reputation of obnoxiousness, violence, childishness, stupidity, and lack of restraint only came into existence when their low intelligence (downright retardedness) caused these traits to be exposed through speech, and are caught on the human cultural radar. Had they remained in the realm of animals and mess around among themselves, they wouldn't have been brutalized so much. "With great power, comes great responsibilities" - when yukkuris harnessed the ability of speech but not the intelligence to understand the human ways, they've signed their own death warrant. And I'm more than happy to strip them of any and all things they may hold dear.
There is also the whole thing that Yukkuris are Artificially made creatures, made with magic, but still something handmade by someone (Asshole Wizard for my headcanon), so any so called "advantage over human children" is just programming, in the same way their inflexibility is nearly robot like.
It's easy to assume superiority because you start speaking from day 1 when you really didn't learn it the hard way, only got info dumped and installed the program and you just run it. Learning is an excercise of intelligence and wisdom, bypassing learning usually is a bad thing for developing intelligence, but for creatures as short lived, it can't be helped.
The other issue Yukkuris have as this foodstuff golems created as a clear bad joke to troll gensokyans, is that because it is clear they are more programmed than truly naturally developed in their conscience and intelligence, they can't properly grow their intellect unless they are born with the right programming.
Basic cunning aside, a Shithead will remain a shithead because it was born programmed as such, their learning is limited to very basic ways on which they can achieve easiness at expense of others.
A Normal Yu maybe able to learn a bit more than a Shithead but they still are limited to how much and have the nasty side effect of being potentially corrupted into Scum that is 1 step below shitheads in villainy and rarely can be brought back from that scum state, not because of the usual "they just get killed" but because they can be as stubborn as a shithead.
A Nicehead is pretty much a properly programmed and developed Yukkuri, even in their most simple, they have higher levels of learning, understanding and intelligence, in yukkuri standards, and while their least intelligent or assertive can be exploited by the previous 2 groups, it has the potential of adquiring Human Aid far more easily and the chance to improve into a closer to human level of existence.
Moral of the Story, You thought that by overthinking it you weren't taking it easy but in reality this is the result of taking it too easy, and not realizing Yukkuris and their existence are a horrible joke made by an asshole wizard, and while people may whine about abyuse or the unrealistic expectations humans have on them, one thing to understand is that yukkuris in general are a source of trouble, stress and uneasiness on Humans out of their weird nature, so yeah...the horrible joke made to troll gensokyans is making people's lives more stressfull and hard.
Fucking Asshole Wizards...should had stuck their foodstuff golems to only gensokyo but I suppose someone at the tier of an usual true final boss of a toohoo game would probably be this uncaring and careless about the damage and spread of their actions...