Question: About yukkuri that have a portion of their body flattened like those in the pictures above, do the dough skin and the paste permanently stick to each other, rendering the yukkuri irrecoverable, unless it gets some serious surgery?
Question: About yukkuri that have a portion of their body flattened like those in the pictures above, do the dough skin and the paste permanently stick to each other, rendering the yukkuri irrecoverable, unless it gets some serious surgery?
Yeah it's like, the stomp mushes the dough and filling in such a way it won't recover, like how you can pinch a fresh but not cooked dough and it remains in that pinched shape.
This kinda reminds me of the whole discussion about why yukkuris can swell up if beaten up and I just realized a good explanation for that.
The hits may soften and thin up the dough so extra filling gathers there leading to the swelling like effect.
Basically yukkuri skin keeps the shape because of it's natural stretchy but solid composition, soften it up to make it more stretchy than solid and that leads to it being unable to keep the normal shape as it's easier for the filling to push out the weakened parts.
Few artists can draw death/suffering yukkuries that look CYUTE like Takumi. I can name a few, like:
- 9th.
- y.
- kiriraitaa.
- boshiherondasu (I'm wild :P).
- big.g. (hehe)
I disagree. No artist can draw death or suffering of anything as cute.
The situation may be funny depending on the context and the tone of the story but Death scenes are likely to be a somber or a cathartic event if you take them out of their original context or your own personal enjoyment. Scenes of suffering either repulses or emboldens depending on the context.
I have the good fortune of being made aware of Dan Carlin's Hardcore History Episode named painfotainment where a passing statement, in essence, was made that aside from the mentally ill we might make up our own justifications to our enjoyment of other beings in pain. You should go listen to it if only for the entertainment value if you are not into educating yourself a little with how humanity seems to be predisposed to like the suffering of others.
I disagree. No artist can draw death or suffering of anything as cute.
The situation may be funny depending on the context and the tone of the story but Death scenes are likely to be a somber or a cathartic event if you take them out of their original context or your own personal enjoyment. Scenes of suffering either repulses or emboldens depending on the context.
I have the good fortune of being made aware of Dan Carlin's Hardcore History Episode named painfotainment where a passing statement, in essence, was made that aside from the mentally ill we might make up our own justifications to our enjoyment of other beings in pain. You should go listen to it if only for the entertainment value if you are not into educating yourself a little with how humanity seems to be predisposed to like the suffering of others.
I guess you're right.
The extreme cuteness of these creatures have really overidden my morality.
On the surface, they look so funny when they suffer, but when I heed to your words, I realize that deep under they are really really desperate and extremely scared to know that death will undoubted touch them.
Just like when I used to be heavily ill that I could barely breathe and struggle to stay conscious under the extreme headache.
The fact you feel guilty about feeling pleasure from the depicted cruelty tells me you are safe from falling into actual sadism.
It is likely you are just trying subconsciously to self-identify with what you think the subfaction you should be identifying with the yufandom which is the rabid pro-abyuse fans.
Remember that any form of extremism *IS* bad so try to hit the happy middle, if you can. Take it easy in taking it easy/hard and just enjoy the occasional good art and rare good stories (be they touching on abyuse or pure family friendly) and you should not end up with a twisted personality as the onii-sans in the yu stories. I just read abyuse comics like any story and just read them like I would any story as long as the art is tolerable (and I have a very low standard for quality because yukkuri fandom does not retain the good artists because they tend to not stay because of how toxic the more vocal of the community is on both sides of the spectrum not to mention the trolls. I do not like how kirishima ryuji draws though).
Takumi *is* a good artist and he can draw cute stuff but no amount of cuteness, chibiness or moeness or funny quips will make a genuine scene of actual despair as cute.
And that's why we have Ze Golden Rule of No Anti Abyuse Comments on Abyuse and No Abyuse Comments on FF, because those extremes of the fandom are as old and prevalent as the fandom itself.
Though I think Canttakeiteasy's argument kinda misses the point of dark comedy and how sometimes fictional annoyances lead to fictional reactions even from the very audience.
Like many times people are just annoyed by yu's (rightfully or not) so they do things on them just for being annoying, hell if they start saying the random crap scum yu's and such love to say, that increases tend fold, and if you actually find them destroying or hurting something or someone you like (which includes good yu's that you actually enjoy) this increases a hundred fold.
It's like how you can wantongly hack, slash, shoot and blast enemies on violent games, even in very gorey ones.
Not always is a product of self defense, sometimes you're defending something, or that antagonist was specially annoying, or if are playing the role of a evil or neutral character, maybe that character was just annoying but hadn't done anything wrong besides being annoying.
I mean consider the basic defending a Village from a Band of Bandit Marauders, while in fiction it maybe fine, I don't think IRL people would be so keen of you using blazing rounds, acidic rounds or any similar illegal "elemental" round, even if you're using them on a bunch of rapist marauders.
In fiction nobody bathes an eye unless the point of the game is to judge all your actions to levels way beyond a normal game would, so yeah, maybe you hate raiders who murder and rape everything and are more than willing to kill them as part of your moral code, but how you do it in fiction and how you do it IRL will be surprisingly different. And sometimes not out of peer pressure of society but your very own morals, you can love your Brutal Doom splatfest of caking the walls with the gore of zombies, demons and such, but maybe IRL you rather just quick tap everything on the head in a clean and hopefully painless death.
Humanity can be quite creative in ways to hurt others, aside of just being creative in general, but as we know, as long as it remains in fiction or in your imagination, there isn't really something bad or something to discuss. It may actually be pendantic or some form of passive agressive action to keep bringing up such topics, not different from all the claims that Video Games make you violent ,sexist, racist, etc. when it turns out that data says otherwise, the "worse" a video Game can make you is more competitive since violent agression and such actually decreases, and notice the "" because being more competitive isn't necessarily a bad thing, it really depends of your own moral codes to use that competitiveness in a positive or negative way.
In the realm of fiction and imagination so many horrible things can be pictured on scenarios, but the true mark of a moral and sound minded person is to be fully aware of what is moral to do and what isn't, you can imagine gorefests as much as you want but you know THAT isn't acceptable while facing an opponent IRL.
If anything, rather than once again go about some useless discussion about the human psyche, a more fruitful discussion should the the cultural differences of the east and west and how that actually affects different storytellings on the yu fandom, since I did notice a huge difference after some long thinking.
If Someone is interested I could elaborate what I mean.
Something I can't explain for sure is Cute Agression, like, one thing is liking moe bullying like the whole ass spanking, teasing and such, but cuteness on abyuse? That's not a thing, the "Crying Moe" in abyuse is more an embodiment of the most annoying aspects of moe, the kind that instead of making you gush all over it, actually annoys you and disgusts you because yes there is "too much cuteness", there is a reason why "moeblobs" are hated over proper moe, and why ironically moeblob fits yukkuris many times.
JusticeItEasy said: Humanity can be quite creative in ways to hurt others, aside of just being creative in general, but as we know, as long as it remains in fiction or in your imagination, there isn't really something bad or something to discuss.
In the realm of fiction and imagination so many horrible things can be pictured on scenarios, but the true mark of a moral and sound minded person is to be fully aware of what is moral to do and what isn't, you can imagine gorefests as much as you want but you know THAT isn't acceptable while facing an opponent IRL.
Or maybe because we as a species are at an average cultural point that we try to downplay that we *like* conflict and try to distance ourselves emotionally from them as much as we can by justifying them (war and what other what-have-yous) or by engaging in violent fiction?
I agree with what you said regarding discerning the appropriateness of acting on our violent impulses and making a reality of our fantasies though. The interesting question is if we can actually resist acting out or refusing to aid the victim when we are surrounded by a crowd that is eager and supportive of acts we normally disdain.
JusticeItEasy said: It may actually be pendantic or some form of passive agressive action to keep bringing up such topics, not different from all the claims that Video Games make you violent ,sexist, racist, etc. when it turns out that data says otherwise, the "worse" a video Game can make you is more competitive since violent agression and such actually decreases, and notice the "" because being more competitive isn't necessarily a bad thing, it really depends of your own moral codes to use that competitiveness in a positive or negative way.
While my bias as a gamer is to agree with you and because for the most part violence in video games can be cathartic especially in competitive games, I must point out that studies with the relationship of video games and increasing aggression is inconclusive.
It does not mean that video games *do not* increase aggression it is just that the current studies cannot filter out other factors that may be more of a driving force. However it must be noted that aside from the mentally ill poor people who do not have access to games/movies where they can warm up or do test runs of whatever dickery they want to do, violent criminals tend to consume and immerse in violent media.
JusticeItEasy said:
If anything, rather than once again go about some useless discussion about the human psyche, a more fruitful discussion should the the cultural differences of the east and west and how that actually affects different storytellings on the yu fandom, since I did notice a huge difference after some long thinking.
In essence there are very little differences aside from cultural references or terms or events or the odd take on extremely different morals brought about by different laws.
The problems plaguing asian society can be seen in western society but really differ by the current state the society is in (population size, income distribution, etc).
If there is a thing that affects how stories are told it is more likely because of a failure to translate properly the context of translated verse by likely a decent, well meaning but non-native or non-expert translator.
JusticeItEasy said: Something I can't explain for sure is Cute Agression, like, one thing is liking moe bullying like the whole ass spanking, teasing and such, but cuteness on abyuse?
Cuteness aggression is just overwhelming enthusiasm in how cute an object is. It does not mean you want to actually hurt it although you might unintentionally hurt it because of how much you are so caught up with your emotions.
Slapping a person you admire across the face is not cuteness aggression but a subconscious resentment or envy towards the person you admire. Squeezing puppies or animals because of how cute they are is cuteness aggression. Thwacking an animal on the skull with a crowbar because you want to be a dick and claim that you did so because it was too cute is not cuteness aggression but an overt attempt to hide purposeful cruelty (it goes without saying it is the same if you do it to people).
*you* does not mean "you" but a mere 2nd person subject using any reader as a hypothetical example.
Canttakeiteasy said: Cuteness aggression is just overwhelming enthusiasm in how cute an object is. It does not mean you want to actually hurt it although you might unintentionally hurt it because of how much you are so caught up with your emotions.
Slapping a person you admire across the face is not cuteness aggression but a subconscious resentment or envy towards the person you admire. Squeezing puppies or animals because of how cute they are is cuteness aggression. Thwacking an animal on the skull with a crowbar because you want to be a dick and claim that you did so because it was too cute is not cuteness aggression but an overt attempt to hide purposeful cruelty (it goes without saying it is the same if you do it to people).
*you* does not mean "you" but a mere 2nd person subject using any reader as a hypothetical example.
Yeah that's why It's weird for me understand why Cute Agression (the person) acts like that, like I said, the closest thing to what he implies is more the light bullying side that even Japan seems to consider FF, not outright abyuse with "subjectively" cute looking Yu's. Kinda related in how some people like the whole "Crying Cute" on anime characters and love to see that often.
But as I said before all that is super limited to very light bullying, which we know sometimes is included as part of moe and cute work, the whole "cute bully" on which you do some super light teasing and such to someone just because they look super cute on their embarassed, exasperated or similar distraught faces.
Smacking the teeths away of something that is subjectively cute is more akin to hating overdone cuteness, mobeblobs or barney the dinosaur type of "enfuriatingly annoying forced cute things", that's more the person hating it than enjoying the "subjective" cuteness.