Humans think they are alpha and always abusing other creatures…
1) We get abused by other creatures, sometimes even smaller than us, so we may as well answer accordingly. At least until they cease their shenanigans.
2) Shitheads are fair play, an embodiment of smugsnakes and anything bad in any talking creature ever, should be properly trashed as the shitty caricature it is
3) No Anti Abyuse on Abyuse no Anti FF on FF, respect the golden rule.
Like...if Abyuse really isn't your thing...this is the wrong place since Yu Works aren't filtered fully, you may as well stick to a normal booru for cutesy FF only pics.
Humans think they are alpha and always abusing other creatures…
If I am not wrong, the yukkuries started as cute and warm-hearted creatures, and they wanted to bring joy - or easiness, to people.
Then some a-holes didn't like all the cutie stuffs, they invented the so-called "shithead" yukkuries and introduced the concept of "slavery" into these creatures' mind, effectively tarnished the reputation of yukkuries.
Times went on, butterfly effect yada yada, now what people know of these creatures are obnoxious, selfish and lousy talking pastries who want to ruin your day.
Cute_Aggression said: If I am not wrong, the yukkuries started as cute and warm-hearted creatures, and they wanted to bring joy - or easiness, to people.
Then some a-holes didn't like all the cutie stuffs, they invented the so-called "shithead" yukkuries and introduced the concept of "slavery" into these creatures' mind, effectively tarnished the reputation of yukkuries.
Times went on, butterfly effect yada yada, now what people know of these creatures are obnoxious, selfish and lousy talking pastries who want to ruin your day.
MAKE NICEHEADS GREAT AGAIN!
MAKE SHITHEADS NEVER EXISTED!
All because of an Asshole Wizard who wanted to mock the gensokyans and didn't care about cleaning up after the joke was far from over.
I disagree but I would rather show than tell at this point.
There is a very neat theory to it, I wager, and does not come within 50% of your wizard story
Asshole Wizard doing horrendous jokes is the most Touhou explanation, without threading into over used archetypes!
Or else we end up with that it's all because Yukari was messing with Gaps, then Asshole Wizards decided to do a horrendous joke, all while being part of a moriya shrine conspiracy that was using a shady Eirin Drug!
And now that's just a crackpot conspiracy theory, and this is a place of intelect not of lunacy! Go to the moon for that if you want Lunacy!
A Japanese has posted the history of yukkuri's stories. At first, yukkuries started as cute and warm-hearted creatures for a short time, and then people torture them for "love". Some creators,we call them "first Anon" here, wanted to see them embarrassed, make an exhibition of themselves, and more,more,and......finally,they torture them because they are so cute.
However, other creators didn't want to see yukkuris be tortured, we call them "faction of love" here, they kept to create warm-hearted stories.
Interestingly, there were not many arguments between these two factions, and yukkuris keep being a kind of "mysterious".In other words, they are not "creature" in this period. "Good head" and "shit head" were not exist.
After a lot of things in this period, such as crazy fans of touhou supplanted the host and deported the yukkuri fans, some of creators, we call them "anon" here, began to make yukkuris mortal. Yukkuris started to have reproductive behavior, feeding habits,and anything made them "real". "good head" and "shit head" appeared in this period.
First anon don't like anon. They torture yukkuri for love.They hate "shit bag" which created by anon."Shit bag" is worthless for tortured.They don't have many fight with anon because "first anon" are the most rare. (In fact,they are most difficult to understand.People who can't realize them always think they are just sick. )
"Faction of love" keep fighting anon until now. They made many settings of yukkuris to against anon's settings. Fighting between them made yukkuris' stories prosperous and diversification. They failed. People love warm-hearted for sure,but they also love to see "shit head" been tortured.
Anon becomes the biggest faction until now because they are the easiest to understand and been accepted.
Humanity is not the only reason. The yukkuri stories now are parts of internet creations's history.
Leans a bit more into the meta, but that's quite the interesting genesis of the yu's, thanks for sharing that!
To be honest my Asshole Wizards thing is more a joke with a intention of it being more of a "in universe" explanation using a bit of Touhou logic but gone seriously wrong...that and if you feel like it also see it as some sort of conspiracy theory (though from my pov a truthful one, as tvtropes would say a cassandra truth.)
Leans a bit more into the meta, but that's quite the interesting genesis of the yu's, thanks for sharing that!
To be honest my Asshole Wizards thing is more a joke with a intention of it being more of a "in universe" explanation using a bit of Touhou logic but gone seriously wrong...that and if you feel like it also see it as some sort of conspiracy theory (though from my pov a truthful one, as tvtropes would say a cassandra truth.)
This is a recurring phenomena. Fluffy ponies, Jissouseki are great other examples.
It shows that many people need such abuse stories to vent their stress or something like it. And they need stories to have abuse justified.
Large enough fandoms (MLP, Rozen Maiden, Touhou) would sometime produce an offspin derivative creature, and such creatures with their rules, behaviour and physiology not clearly defined yet are the perfect opportunity, because with enough stories you can influence how the creature is perceived, essentially creating "rules" for it. And then it can be shaped into something that is conveniently and justifiably abusable. Any author is free to ignore the common rules, but in this case their work usually would not be well received anymore.
This is kinda dickish to original creators and their strokes of creativity that started those creatures. Oh well. It's not like there's some devilish scheme being executed each time to take over the creatures, just natural evolution of concept through demand and supply, and abuse lovers outnumber people from fandom who actually cared for weird reiteration of their favourite characters.
How dare you steal my "Original Idea Do Not Steal" and modify it for your own whim!
Though serious talk, I think that rather than "abuse lovers" outnumbering the non abuse lovers is more like you have abuse lovers and ff lovers being a minority against the huge number of people who like both type of works, since even between artist you see this thing of "sometimes making a cute ff work and sometimes just making a bean splatter fest story for shit and giggles".
Another thing to consider is the annoyance factor and how THERE IS a "too much cuteness" or "too much cuteness that treats it's audience in a very condecending way." that tend to lead to all those "barney killing" kind of situations or people vent their anger at over done moeblob and moe obsessed people.
I wouldn't be surprised if that was also a factor on yukkuris and similar creatures.
PD.: In b4 we get chibi asshole wizards as a new form of bodied yukkuri who are 100% for abyuse because karma.
Another thing to consider is the annoyance factor and how THERE IS a "too much cuteness" or "too much cuteness that treats it's audience in a very condecending way." that tend to lead to all those "barney killing" kind of situations or people vent their anger at over done moeblob and moe obsessed people.
I kind of wish someone draw a comic about how human tries to abuse Yukkuri and eventually they being abuse instead,Asia have some yukkuri thread,like that setting
I kind of wish someone draw a comic about how human tries to abuse Yukkuri and eventually they being abuse instead,Asia have some yukkuri thread,like that setting
No just No, again Shindo, I don't want some shitstorm incoming because people can't just learn to remain on their side of the fence and live and let live.
We have a strict rule for that reason, it's bad enough in the Japanese Fandom that we have artist leaving because someone disliked their FF or their Abyuse work and started harrassing them.
We had enough rabid dirtbags of both camps coming here to annoy people and ruin their fun and going for the "hurrr we need a role reversal story for fairness sake hurr hurr totally not just me making mouth pieces insulting parts of the fandom and claim moral superiority with them hur hur", is encouraging those rabid dirtbags.
So yeah, no, just no. We learn to remain on our side of the fence, or if we are able to move between both sides of the fence then learn to behave according to each side of the fence.
And yeah I also include the passive agressive bs as things we should avoid, each side of the fence has it's set of rules, respect them and don't complain.
Edit: Plus I think normal Gore is a Big No No here (and saying that abusing humans wouldn't lead to that is delusional), it either has to be some tame violence and death with plot like poweryoga stories or nothing.
Though seriously Humans get abused alot in over 9000 franchrises and spectrums, and many times out of the author's biased spite, so yeah, let's leave that out for any board or forum that actually is for that kind of shit.
So yeah, no, just no. We learn to remain on our side of the fence, or if we are able to move between both sides of the fence then learn to behave according to each side of the fence.
Edit: Plus I think normal Gore is a Big No No here (and saying that abusing humans wouldn't lead to that is delusional), it either has to be some tame violence and death with plot like poweryoga stories or nothing.
I kind of wish someone draw a comic about how human tries to abuse Yukkuri and eventually they being abuse instead,Asia have some yukkuri thread,like that setting
The thing is while most of us communicate in English here, the website statistics seem to show that most of the traffic comes from china/taiwan of all places and belgium (but that could just be because some people are using VPN
I just wondering if there will be a yukkuri-DOOM slayer, my friend think that idea btw, he's a fan of both DOOM and yukkuri, so he wish someone could draw a vengeful yukkuri that slays humans, like human abuse yukkuri, she do this for fun.
and i also writen a novel about Yukkuri used to be the massenger for gods, humans think they're cute at first, but then yukkuries stay in mortal world too long and they being corrupted, human begin to abuse yukkuri and eventually enrages gods, gods sent armies to earth and destroy the entire humanity.
I just wondering if there will be a yukkuri-DOOM slayer, my friend think that idea btw, he's a fan of both DOOM and yukkuri, so he wish someone could draw a vengeful yukkuri that slays humans, like human abuse yukkuri, she do this for fun.
They are rage, violent, brutal, without mercy, but yu, yu will be worst…RIP AND TEAR UNTIL IT'S DONE EASY!
What did I say? Plus Canttakeitesy using yourself as example doesn't count! It's like if I used myself as an example of Eikis being common yukkuris because I show up often now! And we know the reality! The Zippang example is valid though so it counts.
Seriously just stop, I rather not see this being as some sort of "well screw the golden rule pass" and then we have rabid abyuse fans going to FF works and shitting on them, more so when poweryoga isn't as available as he was before to drop the Law Hammer!
Also the idea of comparing any yukkuri with the Doom Slayer is beyond heretical, it's pretty much worth a thousand exterminatus and you sure as hell don't want me to go "Cyclonic Torpedos Drop, Everybody Dies!"
Again people stick to your side of the fence if you lack the flexibility of an electronic oldman to move between fence sides without disrespecting each side and breaking the Golden Rule!
Canttakeiteasy said: The thing is while most of us communicate in English here, the website statistics seem to show that most of the traffic comes from china/taiwan of all places and belgium (but that could just be because some people are using VPN
Yeah but I think China/Taiwan are a totally different beast from Japan Yusphere fandom wise, kinda how the western sphere is different as well.
Though I'll be honest and admit I'm not sure how the China/Taiwan Sphere differs but it was stated a lot by people that it is different from the Japanese one and ours.
Now the potential of Belgium VPN usage makes me wonder if there is a particular reason for choosing Belgium in particular or it's a super weird coincidence.
What did I say? Plus Canttakeitesy using yourself as example doesn't count! It's like if I used myself as an example of Eikis being common yukkuris because I show up often now! And we know the reality! The Zippang example is valid though so it counts.
Seriously just stop, I rather not see this being as some sort of "well screw the golden rule pass" and then we have rabid abyuse fans going to FF works and shitting on them, more so when poweryoga isn't as available as he was before to drop the Law Hammer!
Also the idea of comparing any yukkuri with the Doom Slayer is beyond heretical, it's pretty much worth a thousand exterminatus and you sure as hell don't want me to go "Cyclonic Torpedos Drop, Everybody Dies!"
Again people stick to your side of the fence if you lack the flexibility of an electronic oldman to move between fence sides without disrespecting each side and breaking the Golden Rule!
Dude, Chill, i just want to share my idea, don't need to be so furious
ShindoSOS said: Dude, Chill, i just want to share my idea, don't need to be so furious
We have a forum for that, specially when your "idea" comes after yet again complaining about "the ebil abyuse".
It comes out as just you making excuses to keep complaining about abyuse and talk about how you would mess up those pesky mean anons from abyuse.
The worse is that this will give "justification" to the other side to start doing the same on FF and we get some serious problems because people aren't respecting the Golden Rule.
Plus this isn't your first time Shindo, just stop. More so with 9th since you clearly are still pissy about him making Okuus in his works not nuclear at all and easy preys and you took it too personal.
Again, don't like abyuse or a particular subset of abyuse? Ignore it, focus on what you like and only enjoy that, don't ruin it for others.
Want to discuss story ideas? We have a Forum that could use more discussion!
The Inquisitorial Judge of The Heavens is super annoyed by your super kuro heresy, so you better listen, lots of listening is fine!
We have a forum for that, specially when your "idea" comes after yet again complaining about "the ebil abyuse".
It comes out as just you making excuses to keep complaining about abyuse and talk about how you would mess up those pesky mean anons from abyuse.
The worse is that this will give "justification" to the other side to start doing the same on FF and we get some serious problems because people aren't respecting the Golden Rule.
Plus this isn't your first time Shindo, just stop. More so with 9th since you clearly are still pissy about him making Okuus in his works not nuclear at all and easy preys and you took it too personal.
Again, don't like abyuse or a particular subset of abyuse? Ignore it, focus on what you like and only enjoy that, don't ruin it for others.
Want to discuss story ideas? We have a Forum that could use more discussion!
The Inquisitorial Judge of The Heavens is super annoyed by your super kuro heresy, so you better listen, lots of listening is fine!
What did I say? Plus Canttakeitesy using yourself as example doesn't count! It's like if I used myself as an example of Eikis being common yukkuris because I show up often now! And we know the reality! The Zippang example is valid though so it counts.
You cannot really expect me to provide links to the yufanfictranslations forums when it is either gone or down, right?
Anyways there are several text stories where yukkuris get their turn at the humans (some justified, some not). There is a story of an old style story (stronger than a human) of a bodied flan keeping a human captive in a cave in where said human is likely to die from exposure, hunger or sepsis, no updates though.
There are text horror stories of yukkuri eating humans or other similar whathaveyous and a few pictures here and there of those stories but they do not seem to be here any more (or they just wont show because the search algorithm is wonky).
There were actually gore pics depicting yukkuri killing humans but they are really not my cup of tea and I remembered that poweryoga was so adamant regarding the uploading of similar pictures (because they were gory) but made this statement: "As a general rule, guro is not needed (and doesn't add much to a yukkuri story) and therefor disallowed. Even war stories are better told from a desperate struggle perspective instead of "bodies everywhere". Text stories featuring some guro are allowed though."
I am not sure if a text heavy comic where a man dies from a masochistic tenshi jumping off a bridge and breaking his windshield was considered too offensive so I never continued one story I made and lost my interest regarding that piece. It is supposed to have a very interesting take on philosophy in the end a rather surprising reveal.
JusticeItEasy said: Also the idea of comparing any yukkuri with the Doom Slayer is beyond heretical, it's pretty much worth a thousand exterminatus and you sure as hell don't want me to go "Cyclonic Torpedos Drop, Everybody Dies!"
LOL. Doom slayer is a joke power fantasy character (a marty sue, really). I do not see why there can be no yukkuri equivalent. The only problem is it would create too much site drama because some people here cannot figure out yukkuri attacking humans and killing them is fair game and is no different from stories of animals or humans attacking and killing humans. Hell even with what little blood that is shown said people gets their panties in a twist if its the yukkuri that had the upper hand when they enjoy non-yukkuri comics that get downright violent or nasty towards fictional people.
Yeah but I think China/Taiwan are a totally different beast from Japan Yusphere fandom wise, kinda how the western sphere is different as well.
What's so different about the chinese and the japanese yukkuri fandom wise? Aside from language and cultural references? Some chinese artists pioneered so many concepts regarding yukkuri and probably upped the ante of depictions of abyuse to very uncomfortable levels. The only real advantage the japanese fandom had over the chinese is sheer volume of well drawn work.
JusticeItEasy said: Now the potential of Belgium VPN usage makes me wonder if there is a particular reason for choosing Belgium in particular or it's a super weird coincidence.
It would seem to be quite popular with mozilla users and since it opened several servers in belgium recently and with the rash of spam bots plaguing the site it could be whoever is behind them uses a belgian IP.
*Plop plop*It is because of the odor of her own poo-poo?
Or the feeling of shame and despair?And Masha drew her last breath.Anyway, Macha suffered the painfulness severe enough to crush and destroy her paste core in a moment, and ended her short yu-life.