Original shell Marisa was a demanding, selfish ass. And it's sister wasn't any worse than regular yukkuri. It's the mother that should have been punished.
Yeah. I've been entertaining an idea for a sequel story to the original shell Marisa story which involves some punishment coming down on the mother. I'll post it up on the groups later.
Sad thing is, aspects of the shell Marisa case actually reflects some of the things I've seen in my career as a social worker.
Original shell Marisa wasn't that demanding or selfish. She did expect others (her sister) to do things for her but when she was ignored she tried to do it on her own. That's not something other demanding, selfish yukkuris would do.
Well, pretty selfish yukkuris do a lot of things on their own too... like attacking people for not giving them food or being their slaves, or breaking into homes...
Shell Marisa was effectively handicapped. Doesn't matter if the shell was removable. Aside from needing to be clever enough to come up with the idea, Shell would also need to deal with the natural feeling of uneasiness when not wearing an accessory, and more importantly, the family would need to recognize her without the shell.
And all that just for her to get on the table to eat. She can't even go outside without the shell, because she'll run the risk of being attacked for being a weird yukkuri that can't take it easy. So she'll STILL need help just to go to the bathroom.
Mother Marisa was essentially handicapping Shell Marisa, since she wouldn't even let her try to do anything by herself. Shell Marisa might have underdeveloped 'feet' from not having any exercise as a newborn, she was always riding on her Mother's hat. If she had exercise and was treated equally with Hat Marisa the only problem would be popularity.
On topic, I hope anko1317 will be translated in the near future, sounds interesting.
No, the shell is too heavy for any yukkuri to be able to jump around with. That's why Shell Marisa had to slide-slide everywhere. The only way she could have gotten exercise is to take the shell off, but since the shell is her accessory she would have been attacked for being a weird yukkuri.
It's true that shell Marisa needed extra care and attention, but it went way beyond that and turned into spoiling and neglect of the other child. Rather than simply helping shell to do things, and encouraging her to try and do stuff by herself, she was spoilt and simply had everything done for her. The other sister was totally left out, neglected and not given any attention (due to giving shell extra care, but also obsession with the fancy shell)- the better thing to do would have been to involve her in helping shell Marisa to do things. The thing that really irks me is that the mother didn't seem to know why it happened, what it did wrong and that it only seems to care about her special baby (and that the other sister was an enemy that needed killing in order to avenge her).
Although in hindsight, a yukkuri isn't smart enough to actually realise all those things. <_<
And that's why we love them. The more human qualities you attach to them the more frustrated you get when they fail. And the whole joy of yukkuris comes from watching them strive for greatness and easiness but failing horribly when confronted with their overwhelming weakness and stupidity.
@SUN And what makes it even funnier is that they never even realize their own weakness and stupidity.
@Tea Yes Shell was spoiled but like I said, when no one helped her get to the table or lift her up or take her back down, she tried her best to do them all herself which is something most other spoiled, selfish yukkuris don't do. The regular selfish yukkuris just complain and roll around on the floor and make a huge mess of things and then blame it on someone else, or just make a lot of noise and never do anything. But it does bother me that the mother never realized what she did wrong and the older sister never had the chance to fully understand the impact of what she had done and why her mother was attacking her.
@aozf05: Yep. Shell Marisa was handicapped, but her mother never did anything to help her. "Au contraire!" She spoiled her daughter, again and again.
I think there's a word for that. It's not Munchausen Syndrom, it's... aargh, is there a name for parents who let their childrens being handicapped, just to be able to say :"My daughter is precious!" ?
How can mother do anything to help shellisa? Her leg is broken in the world without wheel chair. She need to get to second floor everyday to eat food. What does her mother should do? Suggest some because I can't think anything thing useful.
Her leg isn't broken. She just a useless weakling that wouldn't move away from the piss and melted because she wanted to sleep after her goddamn tantrum.
If the little retard had moved on her own, she would have built up the power needed to move around at the same speed as her sister.
But like I said, the parent is to blame here, as she kept interfering in any attempt to do anything productive of Shelled-Marisa's part, and treated the other child like an afterthought.
It BECAME broken however when it tried to get off the table itself. post #8365 It even vomited on impact.
And I doubt even with exercise that a yukkuri with a heavy shell would ever be able to jump around like one with a normal hat. And the strength to move around probably wouldn't prevent it from being crushed by it's own shell.
I do agree that it wouldn't have been able to be as active like a yukkuri with a normal hat. But it would have been able to do a hell of a lot more than she was in the story...
I just happened to read Anko1317, and it's totally unrelated to the "Baby Marisa and Shelled Marisa" comic. It's called "Develop Yukkuris That'll Sell! (Part I)".
I'm not going to translate it, because it's really long (and boring in parts), but here's a synopsis:
With the pet-yukkuri fad fading, the factory is trying to increase profits by developing a method to mass-produce the rare, expensive, and still highly-sought-after Marisnails (Marisatsumuri).
Marisnails are sought after as pets because (according to this writer's rules) they remain small all their lives. Their shell, being made of calcium instead of manju, doesn't grow (how a calcium shell ends up developing inside the mother is unexplained), and they keep the shell they were born with instead of trading up like a hermit crab, so they (somehow) stop themselves from growing. They don't require much food, and with the weight of the shell, they can't move around very much, so they make good, quiet pets.
Marisnails are too small and weak for childbirth, so directly breeding them is impossible. All the factory can do is mass-breed regular Marisas and wait for a rare Marisnail to be born. Even with 60 Marisas being force-bred nonstop, they're lucky if they get three or four Marisnails in a year. (Here, there's an abuse scene of Marisas being force-bred and the reject babies being taken away screaming to be ground up for food.)
Since previous research in _breeding_ Marisnails has failed, the research team tries _making_ them. They replace the hats of baby Marisas with shells while they're unconscious, but the Marisas only reject the shells and continue to cry out for their lost hats, even when a female Anon posing as the voice of their mother tries to tell them the shell is their accessory.
Next, they try conditioning them to accept the shells.
The hatless baby Marisas (and their rejected shells) are placed in a tank next to hatted baby Marisas. As the hatless Marisas watch, the hatted Marisas are tormented with a hot plate under the floor, a spiked ceiling that comes down to stab them, dry food without water, and floods of salt water.
Then, a light illuminates a tank on the other side of the hatless Marisas, and they see a real Marisnail on a cushion being fed and pampered. Then they see the hatted Marisas being abused again. Then they see the Snail-Marisa being pampered again. And so on, and so on. The voice of their "mother" helps persuade them and reinforce the idea that hats mean not being able to take it easy and that Marisnails are very easy. The hatless Marisas begin to put on the shells. As reinforcement, reluctant ones are threatened by a human arm with a Reimu-ribbon on it, as the worker talks about how Marisas are can't-take-it-easy trash who should be crushed and--oops, I'm sorry, you're not a Marisa, are you, you're a nice easy Marisnail, AREN'T YOU.
The first obstacle to mass snail production has been overcome.
now that's a quite interesting story, seems that ShellMarisa is like Aquatic Marisa in the "The needs of the accesory determinate's the overall yukkuri's needs and growth".
Long-winded, and _repetitive_. ('Scuse me while I get long-winded and repetitive below.)
There's a long scene of the hatted Marisas being burned, then stabbed, then dehydrated, then flooded, complete with lots of screaming _and_ the hatless Marisas' reactions. Then they observe the shell-Marisa taking it easy. Then, because the developers feel that reinforcement is necessary, the hatted Marisas get burned, stabbed, and flooded _again_, and while it's not a total copy-paste, it feels like I'm reading the same damn thing again. Earlier, there were also repetitive scenes of the hatless Marisas crying for their hats on multiple occasions.
Secondly, the yukkuri screaming is too long and drawn-out IMO, so I ended up getting bored. Here's a scene of the non-shelled baby Marisas getting dumped:
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The worker turned the box over and dumped the baby Marisas into the mixer.
"Ztooooob!!! Don't do mean things to babieeeees!!!" "Don'd wand do ead any more!!! Don't wand do!!!" "Nooooooo!!! Forgibe the babiezzzz!!!" "Why are you doing thaaaad!?!? They're babies who gan dake id easy!!!"
...the mother Marisas screamed.
"Yu! Fawwing!!" "Yuwa!! What'sh happening!?" "Yugyu... It hurtsh, je..." "It'sh too cwowded..."
...said the baby Marisas in the mixer. The worker put the cover on and flipped the switch.
Listening to the baby Marisas' screams, the mother Marisas cried. This was the umpteenth time they'd been made to listen to the babies' deaths. What's more, they were made to eat that bean paste.
---End TL--
Next, the Marisas scream as they're fed their babies' bean paste. Then, the factory employees discuss the birth rate. Then, the Marisas scream about not wanting to give birth any more. There's also a digression as the factory returns one of the mother Marisas to the woods and she is rejected by yukkuri society. All this, and the development team hasn't even started experimenting yet!
Soooo, from the sound of things, its a factory story where they're trying to make shelled Marisas, via the 'Torture/kill hatted Marisas in front of parents' while showing them a shelled Marisa 'Taking it easy' method?
Ah, actually pretty different from what I thought it'd be. Sounds like the torture example breeding to get the mothers to turn from normal Marisas to shelled Marisas. Getting them to accept the shells is the first step.
To clarify one thing, the mother Marisas aren't involved in the experiment at all--at this stage, the experiment is to convince normal baby Marisas to wear shells instead of hats and think of themselves as Shelled Marisas.
The mother Marisas only appear early on, when the R&D team goes to observe the factory's current method of producing Shelled Marisas (breed as many Marisas as possible and hope a few rare-types turn up).
Here's an index of all 6 parts of this story: ttp://www26.atwiki.jp/ankoss/pages/2743.html#id_c01b62d8
Matt said: Then we'll all just have to agree to disagree.
I am of the opinion that Shell-Marisa is even more worthless than other yukkuri by it's and it's mother's actions.
You guy think it's the yukkuri version of Tiny Tim.
That would be more of a Patchy, but yeah, Shell-Marisa was completely innocent in that story. She did NOTHING to warrant what happened to her. She well and truly did need extra help, so it's not unfair that she received extra attention. It's true that their Mother piled excess love on Shell, and that she should have been more attentive to her other ko. That was not Shell's fault however. In the end, koMarisa even went shithead and rightfully earned her demise. The only thing missing was a foot falling from the sky to punish the mother too.