Ah, yes. Be an asshole to yukkuri, be better towards others. Make the yukkuris suffer so you don't have to. A win-win situation. Yeah, being an asshole to yukkuris is all good.
Stop mistagging everything in the first place. We've pointed out, time and fucking time again, you are deliberately mistagging things. The things you are tagging can count as non_violent but not family friendly.
I am not deliberately mistagging things. There are things that I have seen tagged as family_friendly that are more graphic or whatever than what I am tagging so you are being too strict, perhaps to discourage the family_friendly group if we want to play the game of blaming each-other, but the point stands that if there is no evidence of violence or danger its okay.
to me, I don't see whats offensive although the shithead Buri, yes, they are shitheads and not ff but would what i post, because I will admit I'm slow, the url, be considered too buri or whatever that term is?
Also, you need to remember that even though something might be tagged family_friendly but still look marginal, even if it's been tagged that way forever (and note that the older pics often have an incomplete tag history), it's entirely possible that it's also mistagged.
TL: R-Reimu didn't mean to kill them! AH!? Reimu was just using them to get up... Huh...? Reimu was only on top for a little bit but they got crushed ... S-So... Now I'm angry! Don't think you'll get out of this alive! Yuaaaaaaaan!
If you think of it like that, it's their fault for dying! Reimu didn't do anything wrong! Mommy, what are you doooooooing!? Hurry up and go get Marisa's hat back! It's just one mister human!
Whatever
Aaaaaaah! Bwabie'z haaaaaaad! I'll be late if I don't go soon. I don't have time for you
Yuaaaaaaaaa! Marisa's hat! Don't burn Marisa's haaaaaaaaat! I'm confiscating this one. If you keep our deal then I'll give it back
Now, shall we go back inside, Reimu?
Nooooooooo! Reimu doesn't want to go baaaaaaack! Want to take it easy with the childreeeeeeen! Mwommiiiiiiiiiie!
Hey, Reimu... The hat, the most important thing next to her life, got burned up. I wonder what kind of heavy punishment there'll be if you kill another one. Have a good think about it Yu yuuu... Got it?
Led me dage id eajyyyyy! Little oooooone! Mwo... miiiie! Give back Marisa's haaaaat! Yueeeeeeeeeen!
Only up to 15 tags can appear on the related sidebar, although the comments section or the tags textfield shows all of them. Wonder if anything can be done to get rid off that limit
that's probably not the shithead since if you look closely, the hat is different. Shithead's hat has pointed top while this one is not. This one is probably the other one that's kind and caring.
When the mother Reimu was speaking to her children after rescuing some of them from underneath the food bowl, the shithead koMarisa was continuing to interrupt it's mother.
The dirty looking koMarisa in the current image is doing the same thing while the mother is speaking to the Anon.
I'm just trying to figure out if that's correct or not because the shithead Marisa hasn't been that kind to it's siblings in this series. Even earlier in panels, where some of the koyukkuri were trapped outside, the kind koMarisa had a bent back hat, while the shithead wears a pointed.
This is all up in the air, but this is an opinion.
I've noticed that since the family was placed outside, the artist changed the shithead koMarisa's hat from regular bent to pointed so it would be easier to recognize which is which for later reference. He even may have done that change so you can tell who's who in this panel.
I can see where the belief that it's a different artist comes from, but to me it seems like aquarium guy has been heading to this look for a while. I guess it's a grey area.
sorry for the necromancy but after re-reading the comments and checking the series again i couldn't help but give another interpretation about why the mister got the Remiryas.
After reading the comic again, i found myself understanding that the mister actually wanted a remirya but the pet shops didn't have them anymore basically a lucky pet?/social experiment subject? find.
Who wouldn't want one? The anon's line of thinking is probably keep one as pet, and possibly sell the others to pet shop? Mind you, this is just speculation.
Hey, he might even feed the deibu and the shithead to a fully grown Remilia. That would be a happy end.
I wouldn't call the Reimu a Deibu, she seemed genuinely concerned about her kids and to me its just that she has absolutely no idea what she is doing. She did do stupid things, but stupidity and yukkuri go hand in hand.
Yes but when stupidity gets other killed and the shithead prevailing, those are usually hints of deibuness.
She may not be the typical karma houdini cruel deibu, but she clearly is a type of deibu. One that is more stupidity than selfishness, but nobody said that Deibus are only selfish, they many times are stupid to the point of ruining it to others, even yukkuris.
Deibus aren't really incapable of acting nice to their own children. One could argue that the Reimu from the Selfish Mother series was concerned with her own children; it just came at the cost of her concern for everything else. You can say that this Reimu was concerned for her kids, but what about for her Marisa? Sure, she may not be as big of a Deibu, but some of the qualities do appear to be there.
I thought Deibu's stupidity was related to selfishness and arrogance. I don't know, aside from the Remilia's which was less stupidity and more desperation to get with her kids + really not liking Remilias.
One thing I'm thinking of, could a yukkuri "adopt" a yukkuri of another breed? Or a yukkuri that isn't part of its family?
Selfishness and Arrogance are for the most harcdore deibus, but there are some lesser deibus that are mainly stupid in ways that even break the yukkuri standars, a negletful mother out of a mixture of stupidity and lack of disicpline is a Deibu, like nucklavee said since no matter how much they care for their kids their actions speak for themselves, then being a negletful partner/wife/husband, in this case Reimu was pretty much trashtalking Marisa back during the whole nest incident and in the end, she didn't hesitate much about the "assisted" suicide to feed her to the ko's.
And yeah yukkuris can adopt, it has been shown in various stories, specially fics, hell, "The Wolf and The Seven Yukkuris" run on that idea pretty much.
So she's a Deibu by reason of mental defect? I mean, if it talks like a duck, moves like a duck, looks like a duck...
The Deibu title, to me, is like a rapist title. Raper_Raper_alice serves justice, but is still a rapist. Whatever the reason isn't the point, mother Reimu acts like a Deibu, so we call her a Deibu.
No, as i mentioned before, there is the very important aspect of her actions, she may be dumb as hell, even for yukkuri standars, but if that dumbery doesn't bother anybody or doesn't get anybody killed out of that high quantity of dumb and maybe stubborness of that stupid reimu to do stuff in her way, then she won't a Deibu.
Stupidity =/= Deibu =/= shitheadness
Stupidity + Doing it Wrong + Screwing it up for everybody = Deibu =Shitheadness.
You can say that selfishness, delusion of supremacy and arrogance are more like extras, but a Deibu is basically a reimu so stupid and so stubborn in her ways, that end up making things worse for others and if you include the typical attitude of yukkuris of blaming their faults to others, it only gets worse.
yes they can, the same way a koyukkuri can be shithead since being born, the koreimus can be deibus as well, notorious examples being the kodeibus of a single mother and such, even after their mother is death ,the go on being deibus, even if they now are with a new deibu, a piece of advice anelaidlreturns, don't judge koyukkuris using average standars of cubs and kids, since koyukkuris are way too different from them, way different.
Unlike with other animals or living beings, yukkuris can really be born bad and never change for good since they are born.
You can say it's the danger of mixing ego, with a ultra simplistic nature and highly low intelligence + a lot of fail logic they use and a hereditary system that many times will leave a serious mark in generations and generations of yukkuris.
It's sort of like the debate between nature vs. nurture. For many normal animals and human beings, the nurture argument has weight because of how much a child must learn from the parents before they can become self-sufficient. For yukkuri, though, the children are born already able to talk and possessing knowledge, skills, and personalities. This shifts the argument heavily into the nature side, which implies that the yukkuri are genetically predisposed to a particular behavior setting even before interacting with its parents. Many people thus interpret this to mean that some yukkuri will grow up to be terrible no matter how much you try to change it, because it was born bad and nature wins vs. nurture for yukkuri.
So Yukkuris are like Orks in Warhammer 40k in that they are both related to plants, generally have bad temperaments, and receive all their intelligence through genetics?
Yep, but, unlike orks, if they have potential and are good yukkuris, they have better chances to become better, but again basically you need the yukkuri to be nice to begin with.
A Trashy or Scummy yukkuri have a nearly zero chance of changing to become better, exceptions being nearly legendary cases.
But if a yukkuri is a nicehead, it may be able to learn new stuff, grow into a smarter creature and overall a productive member of the world.
You can say it's also part of their simplistic and nearly absolutistic nature, it's harder to find more "neutral" aspects or them not being way more influenced by the "siding" than humans will ever be with their more complex nature.
I disagree, however, that this particular Reimu is a Deibu since it seems like most of her stupidity comes after being put outside and what happened there, and it seems like she snapped when the Marisa said to trust Mister.
All things considered, I'm sympathetic since she's had one bad thing happen after another. The Shithead Marisa, however, I hate.
eh, I don't think the events prior to her refusal to let Marisa punish the shit-head were sufficiently traumatizing to excuse her behavior. She was simply put under stress, at which point her character shone through.
the closest thing she had was a hypocritical sense of super protectiveness to the little ones after, they ironically killed the original koreimu that ate the sugar cube.
Yet now that "we won't kill or hurt anymore little ones!" attitude is only letting an actually bad koyukkuri to ruin it for the whole family.
Long made short she makes a fuzz because a little one ate a sugar cube and with the rest of the family they kill it, then she goes all protective out of "not wanting to lose more little ones" yet doesn't realize that killing the shithead may actually be the best way to stop loosing little ones since it's because of that very shithead they are loosing more and more.
I swear, if i had some story changing powers, i would swap the original koreimu with the shithead on the original sugar cube incident and see how things develops, if things go right, it probably would be way better than now.
Looking back at it, it was their only food and she said not to eat it and they were promised more food afterward. And the fact she lied, etc, all indicates that it was probably better that the koreimu was killed.
She does have a weird sense of super protectiveness, but looking at what the Mister said, he drops lines that would add to her protectiveness, such as mentioning that its going to be extremely cold, colder than it was before, and the "bait and release" thing with the hook.
Again, its a domesticated yukkuri being forced into survival situations. I think there is a difference between our opinion as to the cause of her actions.
I don't think she's domesticated, remember in the last panels she mentions returing to the forest with "patchouli and the others", maybe they are averagely normal forest yukkuris that, well, aren't acustomed to make their nest from 0 without a hollow tree or some semi dugged cave on the wild, which is way different from making a nest in a plain and barren yukkurarium,
Reimu doesn't really have much of an excuse, she's basically a mother that is protecting her psychopatic son because years ago one of her kids died, yet because of the psychopatic son many of the averagely nice or darn good siblings are dying either because he gets them in danger, or ends up pushing them to their deaths while trying to escape gangs or mafias, etc. Yet the mother goes on trying to protect him instead of going "Fuck It!".
Yeah probably it, but again, not much of an excuse for her to not be loathed and deserving a violent desmise and the label of a Deibu, since through her antics she seems to do as much damage indirectly as a full fledged Deibu.
Mainly because of how she trashtalked the Papa Marisa for trying to do the damn right thing and for what she did to those Koremilias and how letting shithead go on living just made things worse for the family.
I think what I was trying to get it was that while she made everything worse, and did cause bad things to happen, to me she had good intentions. A deibu, even if it likes its children, doesn't have good intentions. Its selfish even in respect to them, but even if someone is entirely corrupt they are still capable, in some situations, of doing good.
While papa Marisa tried to the right thing, he caused some of the problems with getting Reimu pregnant. The shithead being a shithead isn't something I can blame either parent for, and her trashtalking Papa Marisa I chalk up to the desperation
I can't loathe her and wish her a violent demise because of her intentions, she isn't doing things to be mean or out of spite, even when she is trashtalking Papa Marisa, but out of either irrationality, panic, etc, but the basis of it is a protection for her kids. This can be taken to an extreme and you have an overprotective mother, but that's a seperate issue from Deibuism.
Another concern is that with the translation, the Mister says a lot of things that are concerning. I'm pretty convinced that this is either him really having no care for the yukkuri or malice intent.
Well until now he had been way neutralish, maybe influencing a bit here and a bit there, the only time he showed somed kind of interest was with the Remiryas and seems that's because he really wanted one.
This anon barely gives out any intention, sometimes he seems to be dumb, sometimes he seems to have a bit or malice or at least intolerance to the family's antics and sometimes he seems to be testing or experiment with the family in some social or psycological way.
In my honest opinion, we rather not dwell too much in the anon's instention until we finally get a page on which he explains himself or gives way too obvious hints, since he had been too vague for too long outside of the chance of him licking remyrias for some reason.
At least the shithead got its hat torched. About time that damn thing got some kind of punishment.
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