Now that last line, makes me wonder if they realize the mister bugs are alive as well? Since they eat them without any consideration and many times just label them "Mister Munch Munch".
Well it's still a wrong mindset, or kinda hypocritical, and as Tea said, maybe a lame attemp of low blow sympathy.
One thing is "i don't want to die" another is "I'm alive you shouldn't kill me!" at least while dealing with animals and yukkuris are between animals and human, well maybe we can call them "monsters" in the RPG sense (aka non traditional and necessarily natural fauna)
The appeal I think is supposed to be that another sentient creature is begging for help and is about to be cooked alive. So I don't really see it as lame. A low blow however yes.
I almost wonder if this is supposed to be an anti abuse comic in disguise. Probably not but it's interesting food for thought.
Well it's lame because they don't have that consideration to other creatures themselves and only use it as a way to be saved, but hardly they had been shown to have some sympathy or consideration of other creatures the same way humans and sometimes animals do.
That's the deal, i wouldn't mind them begging for their lives but, i don't think, they have much room for using the "I'm a living being" card on others when they never consider it when they are the ones in control...
Yukkuri, like humans, think about food differently than they do themselves. Put a human in the same system, and they will beg for their lives even though we don't give the same "consideration" to the animals we eat. The difference is that yukkuri are the lesser lifeform so it is easier just to say, as Tea said, that they only say that to avoid harm.
They seem to understand life and death, and in the idea of the factory, unlike in a real meat-factory, they understand they will die. What makes this story sad is that it is not any different than how real factories work, except it is a lot more sanitary than the ones I've seen, at least in Belgium.
The Marisa is just yelling, to me, what any animal or person would yell in the same situation. What I wonder is why they haven't just bred them to the same degree as chickens and cattle, in which they are too stupid too live and only exist as food, rather than doing a lot of things such as burning the mouth and feet, which seems more temporary than permanent.
I sympathize with the yukkuri since they are not even given the illusion of comfort, since they know they are going to die, that their children are going to die, and that there is no hope.
I don't get why its a bad thing for the Maris to beg, since in this case, it has done nothing wrong, probably not even eaten another living thing.
Well, it's bad because, Yukkuris always use the "i'm a living being" card, even when they deserve the mortal end, not necessarily this case, but you know what i mean.
Yukkuris don't have a true consideration for other beings in anyway, it has been long proven, humans on the other hand can have a consideration for other beings, and many times yukkuris are included, but because of their nature, we get to see more often when humans decided to not care for them.
I can see a human rush to save an animal in danger or heal it, a yukkuri? no. They only rush for fellow yukkuris, that's all. The thing is, Yukkuris get also offended if things don't go their way, even blaming what they see as food and comfort, not "delivering" when many times they lead to such end. No Mr Bugs to eat? it's the fault of the uneasy mister bugs that doesn't let themselves be eaten! No Mr Mushrooms or Mr Fruits? it's the fault of them for being so uneasy and not regrow like nothing for their convenience.
The point is that in the bigger spectrum, using the "i'm a living being card" is a hypocrite move from them, the same way a Lion saying so would also be hypocrite if they are killed for attacking humans and eating them. The same way humans demanding that from Animals would be hypocrite.
Again, one thing is begging for their lives because they don't want to die, that's, understable, and everybody dies it, even animals who cannot speak can do so in some degree, but claiming that "you aren't food because you're alive" is a hypocresy, we humans are also alive, but we can be somebody's food, mister bugs are alive yet they can be somebody's food, mister lions can be also be somebody's food, or die because they tried to hunt something that could kill them back.
That's the whole Issue Anelaidlives, "i'm a living being not food" card, not the begging, they have the right to beg for their lives, and i agree this series is pretty grim, hell, i think it throws more shit to the average "Megafarm" style than the most traditional way which my country uses more (Argentina).
I really don't know where did Yukkuris get the idea that claiming their living status would change anything, specially, if they won't awknoledge other's living status, since, if you're "uneasy" for them, it's like being trash or not living and worth of being hurted, punished and murdered by them.
They have the right to beg for their lives, but it's out of place and hypocrite to demmand it through "i'm a living being card".....thousands if not millions of living beings die everyday in the life struggle, and they had deserved to live more or less than the yukkuris, yet, death is part of being alive, being "alive" doesn't make you unworthy of death.
Of course this has nothing to do with approving the factory methods or anything, but as i said, i think it's hypocritical from the yukkuris regardless of their situation to use the "I'm a living being, don't eat me" card, specially because they won't have that consideration to others.
I didn't miss your point, it was clear, i just don't feel like changing my way of commenting, when you won't stop your own way.
If you may stop your "Yukkuri are People" crap that clearly nobody cares about since everybody here knows how bad humans can be, then i may try to be less redundant.
Besides, isn't english Redudant by default? Sorry, it's not my main language either way.
You have missed my point because comparing what things are similar is not the same as saying they are the same.(If that makes any sense.) Why are you so adamant about this? Are you so ashamed of your activities that you will attack someone for having a different opinion then you?
Because you're just trolling and trying to get a rise out of someone. We've told you time and time again to stop drawing parallels to humans on everything yukkuris do, and you always "compare" with human analogies every fucking time. There are thousands of other kinds of animals out there and you can only compare with humans? Un-fucking-likely.
In his defense in our world the only thing that can talk and use complex thought are humans. However, PIE just use apes or yokai or something else okay. There's no need to fight over this.
Again, Monster fauna people, monster fauna, anything that is beyodn animal but below advanced sentient and intelligent life forms are that, and no PIE, yukkuris aren't advanced sentient and intelligent life forms, they are a worse take of the Slime monsters of RPGs.
Don't argue with him. In the future, I'm going to do the same that I asked you guys to do for all stupid comments like these: let me know and I'll go and clean up. Don't waste time responding to him because that just increases my work load.