I'm confused too. So Reimu is telling the anon to torture her if that makes him easy(happy), then next panel she's saying.... what's this I don't get it.
Panels 3 and 4 (or I guess the whole top part if you want) are just some random thought by anon, indicated by the thought...trail...bubbles?... coming from his head. While panel 5 is anon lamenting about how cruel reality is, that for some odd reason yukkuri do not react pleasantly to being randomly attacked with a knife.
Problem Differing humans from yukkuris? How the hell did you get that? That's yukkuri speech, so, it's clear it's just yukkuris trying yet another lame attemp of living being or something card, but this time even more delusional since they are using "i'm human card"
What we got here is the Anon wondering if, as talking pastrie, she would let him take it easy with a slice, like in the old comics, instead he got greeted by the modern reality of yukkuris.
MRS GREN Movement - They move Respiration - They breath Sensitivity - They feel Growth - They grow Reproduction - They reproduce Excretion - They poo Nutrition - They eat
@PostItEase: They don't seem to breathe. But they derive energy from what they eat, so there seems to be the 'magical' type of respiration, a magic similar to that which allows them to exist. And JusticeItEasy isn't saying anything against yukkuris being non-living (at least not in that comment). It's about how yukkuris tend to use the fact that they're living beings as a reason and excuse not to be harmed. Which, for someone that is at the mercy of the person in control of the situation, is an extremely poor choice to make. And possibly arrogant as well.
But it's true yukkuris are living beings. Even if they are agreed not to be organisms, they are living. It's easiest to think of them as some sort of higher-sentience golems, I guess. (Dough-and-bean-paste golem, huh.... Does sound weird.)
@TheodoricBlood: Go challenge the biologists and the norm with your logic. Good luck!
Let's not forget that she actually is using a variation, "mister that hurts humans", like a "I'am human don't hurt me" line, which is even worse since it actually isn't accurate, at least one can agree they are living beings to some degree but feel their "i'm a living being don't eat me" claim being arrogant and hypocrite since when they are the ones in control eating others or killing others, they get offended if the victim defies them or doesn't let itself be killed.
Yukkuris aren't humans, yukkuris are living beings (as much as a rpg monster fauna is a living being) and yukkuris are hypocritical about their use of the "living being card".
>>@TheodoricBlood: Go challenge the biologists and the norm with your logic. Good luck! It's PostItEase's logic, not mine. He gave a set of seven criteria to say yukkuris are living beings. The logic he's using is poor because, using the same criteria, you could argue that fires are living beings. too. They all apply, with the exception of sensitivity. But since respiration is under debate for yukkuris, failure of one criterion wouldn't disqualify something.
My point was that PostItEase's criteria for judging whether something was alive or not as he presented it was stupid, since using it the way he does, one could argue that fire, something that isn't alive, was.
As for your logic... >>Even if they are agreed not to be organisms, they are living. It's easiest to think of them as some sort of higher-sentience golems, I guess. If they're living, they're organisms. If they're not living, they're not organisms. And if you're equating yukkuris with golems, you're conceding the argument about them being alive or not, since golems aren't alive. They're artificial constructs animated by an outside force. Minus the outside force, they're nothing but hunks of clay.
They can be living for all purposes of the comic, but realistically they're just walking manjus that can't physically exist outside of a magic world. Argue all you want, yukkuris are as alive as dragons, golems, zombies and skeletons.
My point is they're as alive as animated constructs or undead. All can only exist in a fantasy world, and all exhibit "living" characteristics like PIE said but are not technically alive. They are in all essences, RPG creatures. (forgot who said that, but it has never rang truer)
I was the one, though i usually made a paralel with Slimes of Dragon Quest, >_> even though Slimes are in many ways better than Yukkuris, even in intelligence and proporion of good ones and bad ones.
I was suspecting it was a mistake, but, it sure was interesting to discuss how lame it would be if yukkuris tried to pull that "we are humans/people card" on us...
The one thing that always bugs me about the "yukkuris are living things" argument? Being living things doesn't matter. The bubonic plague is a living thing (look it up, it's bacterial in nature), and we sure as hell don't purposefully let the bubonic plague spread out of misplaced sympathy. No, we stomp it out. Because its existence is harmful to us.
Yukkuri are sentient. Most are dumb as shit, but they are sentient nevertheless. Still, trying use tug on our heartstrings is a sign of shitheadiness. I doubt any nice one would use that tactic. Sadly, many nice ones are killed along with the nasty ones.
Well considering that we are talking about talking magical manjuus, fire being considered a living being isn't farfetched in the context of non organic, non technological and non logical things beings alive and having some living being aspects.
Anyway it doesn't matter, nobody here has the doubt they may be living beings to some degree, but again, considering how badly they treat other living beings or how little they care about non yukkuri beings, it comes as annoying and bothersome their lame attemp of sympathy, after all, if you're a mister bug that DARES to not let yourself be eaten by them, well you're uneasy, should drop dead, should let GREAT/CUTE yukkuri eat it, shouldn't take it easy, etc. etc. etc.
So yeah, nobody cares at this point if they are living, but their attitudes and way of acting, after all, the Space Monsters of Gunbuster are technically living being, but, should we not damage them because of that? or the animals we eat? the plants? etc.
So screw the "living being" card, just another list of the stuff that proves how bad the majority of yukkuris are.