RedRightHand said: Actually read the fucking story and you'll see.
The story is Reimu is a survivor of a mass extermination and teaching her kid to play kill humans. Not exactly "ANON IS A SADISTIC BASTARD!" material.
Take a chill pill dude. This is tame stuff compared to the stuff I've seen in the archives. You should read the one where Alice Margatroid brings her pet Marisa to the factory just to scare the shit outta her into obedience.
yukiyuzen said: The story is Reimu is a survivor of a mass extermination and teaching her kid to play kill humans. Not exactly "ANON IS A SADISTIC BASTARD!" material.
Take a chill pill dude. This is tame stuff compared to the stuff I've seen in the archives. You should read the one where Alice Margatroid brings her pet Marisa to the factory just to scare the shit outta her into obedience.
By the way, just my own two cents on the ongoing discussion about the justification for these yukkuri's human extermination game... It's almost a coping mechanism. On , what, the first page, the human doll (voiced by Reimu) is apoligizing and promising not to abuse Yukkuri anymore. So there is a sense of vengeance or self-defense that is not a part of the typical shithead yukkuri mindset- they're imagining killing those who killed their kind. It's not much different than imagining squashing yukkuri because they demand sweets from you and call you a shitty old hag/geezer, except that they don't actually threaten the lives of you and those you care about. Lastly these acts of aggression were mostly escapism (though Marisa fails to see the reality), were only directed at toys until the anon kicked their home over and caused them injury, etc.
Of course if you're pro-abuse you might not care and consider yukkuri to be inherently inferior (rendering this argument irrelevant), but if you're a JUSTICE kinda fellow and only want yukkuri who "deserve it" to get hurt or killed, you might see where the idea that they didn't deserve this comes from.
That's an interesting point Trololo, though i think that some people see the "human extermination game" as something with a potential of enchancing some the already notorious bad traits of yukkuris and probably why there is some dissapproval about it.
This yukkuris may not be the case, but what if we had others yukkuris, specially from the trash majority playing this and just growing more agressive and vindicative? We kinda saw what something like this lead back in that story by nooraki about the strays attacking humans with sticks after practicing with a doll and this triggering a mass extermination worse than anything they had faced before.
Maybe that's the thing some are seeing the "human extermination game" in the general view of the yukkuri world (regardless if they are Pro Abuse or JUSTICE guys) and some see it only in this story's view. And because of that the sympathy that some expect for the yukkuri isn't as strong as planned.
Maybe if the game was less about "human extermination" and more about, dunno, "marisa knight rescue the fair yukkuri princess from the evil human overlord", it may had not made people consider the general view and be more sympathetic to Komarisa and her mother Reimu, since we wouldn't see the "scum potential" of the game like with "Human Extermination".
Also anyone notice the ironic throwback to the first or second page? "Please forgive the little one, I'll do anything!!!!" vs. "Please let the little one go, I'll do whatever you say!!!" Thought it was a nice touch.
There's also the commonly held view that yukkuri are not imaginative creatures--that is, since everything they say and do is literal, they don't have the capacity to be creative. "Playing" even among koyukkuri is not something for fun or to pass the time but is even a form of training or practice that they can apply for real as adults.
Even though it has been shown otherwise, they're mainly explained away as yukkuri imitating other creatures (including humans) as a form of preservation and propagation of the "species".
Skribulous said: -Theory of Yukkuris being Literal in everything-
Hmm now that's an interesting theory Skribulous, yukkuris being literal in a great deal of things even playing can even explain a great deal of their actions, attitudes and sayings, like when a yukkuri demmands someone to "drop dead easy", that yukkuri may think that because of the demmand, the one who was asked to die would do so inmediatly. There is also how yukkuris in general speak to other objects thinking they are alive, how that translate with being literal? since they take the Mister and Miss titles as literal nods of the object being alive or at least responsive.
Skribulous said: (Playing=Training due to Yukkuri taking everything literally)
JusticeItEasy said: (Interest in the idea)
I disagree because the mother Reimu's sheer terror at first sighting a human suggests a great level of intelligence (for a yukkuri) and humility. She can't possibly win, neither can her child, and she knows it.
It's a basic displacement of aggression. Can't hurt the humans who kill and hurt other yukkuri, so kill and hurt a doll in the likeness of a human and pretend.
As for Marisa I think it's more of a case of like when you used to figt with your dad as a toddler. Remember that he used to pretend like you actually stood a chance and could win? Made you think you were some kinda ass-kicked until reality struck somehow.
Same thing happened to Marisa, only a little more...harshly.
We only hurt a Mister Doll...shake shakeBYUU..!
Bei...being squashedddddd!!Little oneee!
Mister human!
Please let her gooo!!
I'll doo whatever you sayyyyy!Yuuuuu!?
Noo nooo!
Wemme goo!
Wemmeee goooo!SQUEEZEYu!? Marisha is fwy...yankIt is insulting for yukkuri scum like you to hurt a doll you are pretending is a human. You don't get it at all do you paste brains?We didn't even do anything to a mister human...shakeshakeWe...didn't even do anything wrong...WHY...Now then...