One Yukkuri Place

suggestion: OUR relay manga (2011)

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Estimated time of completion so far is Sunday evening. A quick heads-up so everyone is on the same page.

If all goes according to plan: Release at 12am.
If not: Monday evening release.
Apologies.

I'm working on it. This will be my first page using my tablet. I was going to end the relay comic with only mouse drawings but since I saw the change in my stuff using my tablet and guide lines, I even draw most of the frames in a notebook to make it cleaner and better

SUN said:
Sorry guys, some problems have come up and I can't finish the page. Until further notice, I'm going to have to sit out.

that's what he said in page 6

im gonna go into a tangent when its my turn, i still have lousy anatomy drawing skills and i think ill make a backstory like SUN did with lil tard

Dont sell yourself short danogoat! You're a monster, you can do whatever the hell you want and if you wanna draw anatomy you can kick it out of the park!
Don't ever limit yourself!

ok, after sketching, dealing with colors and shapes and proportions; I can tell you I'm posting the new page in the next 2 days

Fragtagonal said:
Dont sell yourself short danogoat! You're a monster, you can do whatever the hell you want and if you wanna draw anatomy you can kick it out of the park!
Don't ever limit yourself!

Okay, Frag, cut it out with this superfluous motivation. This is the reason all art sites turn to shit, when everyone starts getting too nice and afraid to be brutally honest.

Yes, you should listen to people. Yes, you are limited. The only way to improve is to push yourself and always be critical of yourself and others.

SUN said:
Okay, Frag, cut it out with this superfluous motivation. This is the reason all art sites turn to shit, when everyone starts getting too nice and afraid to be brutally honest.

Yes, you should listen to people. Yes, you are limited. The only way to improve is to push yourself and always be critical of yourself and others.

Well another reason why art sites turn to shit is the exact opposite, when the "brutal honestity" becomes outright bashing and non constructive criticismn "trying" to be disguised as "valid" criticismn.

Constructive Criticismn is the way for improvement, no ultra brutal honestity or ultra exagerated niceness.

JusticeItEasy said:
Well another reason why art sites turn to shit is the exact opposite, when the "brutal honestity" becomes outright bashing and non constructive criticismn "trying" to be disguised as "valid" criticismn.

Constructive Criticismn is the way for improvement, no ultra brutal honestity or ultra exagerated niceness.

"Brutal honesty" does not mean insulting or offensive remarks. It means explaining the flaws you perceive in a work without sugarcoating anything. And constructive criticism is brutal honesty coupled with telling people how they can improve.

I don't know of any art sites that went bad because of brutal honesty; I do know a lot of places that got infested by trolls.

However, in the specific case of OYP I don't see any brutal honesty or constructive criticism. I only see mindless cheer-leading and I think it would be nice if better artists could help the less skilled ones improve.

SUN said:
"Brutal honesty" does not mean insulting or offensive remarks. It means explaining the flaws you perceive in a work without sugarcoating anything. And constructive criticism is brutal honesty coupled with telling people how they can improve.

I don't know of any art sites that went bad because of brutal honesty; I do know a lot of places that got infested by trolls.

However, in the specific case of OYP I don't see any brutal honesty or constructive criticism. I only see mindless cheer-leading and I think it would be nice if better artists could help the less skilled ones improve.

What i meant is that some people that plainly bash, instead of do constructive criticismn, hide under the banner of "Brutal Honestity", not realizing there is a notorious difference between "This pic is shit and sucks, learn some anatomy you asshole!" with "I don't like this pic, you could try to apply better anatomy, maybe checking a few books about anatomy, etc.". Some people act self righteous while critcising an art piece and think they have the right of being harsh and bash, when all you really need to do is to politely state your dislike of the art piece and explain why properly.

The thing is that this kind of Basher Critics hang around the "Nice and Non Constructive comments" so usually if a art site is being shit, it's because both Bashers and Diabetical Sugarcoaters are in the same site.

I do agree in the importance of Constructive Criticismn and Brutal Honestity, as long as the brutality doesn't kill the politeness, and our local artists would need an encouragement through proper criticismn, but we had to avoid the issues of being too critical and unpolite, after all telling someone his drawings are shit, when they are just averagely bad and could improve, etc. won't help at all, sadly, way to many people in the internet don't get this simple fact through their skulls.

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