Judging by the fact that reimu is preg'nant, and it takes two to tango, it seems marisa also let passion get the best of her. Greed for reimu and lust for marisa.
SUN said: Judging by the fact that reimu is preg'nant, and it takes two to tango, it seems marisa also let passion get the best of her. Greed for reimu and lust for marisa.
Basically both deserve to NOT survive winter, uh? I kinda agree this time if the Marisa was stupid enough to make babies in the middle of the winter, she's as bad as the stupid deibu that ate the whole food for winter.
SUN said: Judging by the fact that reimu is preg'nant, and it takes two to tango, it seems marisa also let passion get the best of her. Greed for reimu and lust for marisa.
Judging by the comparative size of each, though, Marisa might have kept a decent stock of food assuming non-glutton portions, even for the kids.
I mean, yeah, reproducing before winter is a shitty idea anyway, but with a reimu that eats like that she might have been fucked either way.
yukiyuzen said: Except the leaf with crumbs on it is supposed to represent the fact that all the food stocks have been eaten already.
Not what i meant. I'm saying that the food Reimu ate all at once might have been sufficient for them and the little ones if she didn't eat all of it at once and grow like three times the size of Marisa.
When yukkuris eat a lot they do grow bigger, specially if they eat enormous ammounts of food.
So Reimu becoming that big and fat in the first day if she ate the whole winter food is plausible. Now the pregnancy would be something to wonder about, maybe Marisa refreshed with her the day before, regardless of winter soon starting, and this lead to Reimu being pregnant and changing to the "ME PREGNANT! ME NEED FOOD NAO!" mentality that many pregnant yukkuris have. Maybe Reimu wasn't that big and fat before and it only got like this after pregnancy and eating using the typical lame logic of "I NEED MORE FOOD NOW THAT I'M PREGNANT SO I'LL EAT EVERYTHING!".
In the end it seems both Marisa and Reimu will deserve their downfall for failing to self control themselves, Marisa by not refreshing in winter and Reimu by not eating everything because of the pregnancy in winter. Like Sun said, you need two to Tango.
In the end it seems both Marisa and Reimu will deserve their downfall for failing to self control themselves, Marisa by not refreshing in winter and Reimu by not eating everything because of the pregnancy in winter. Like Sun said, you need two to Tango.
Opinion time here, but I just don't think that's the vibe that noraaki was going for here. I feel that we would have either had a panel depicting Marisa refreshing in the first place if it was supposed to be a case of true mutual blame.
I personally imagine Marisa kinda having a half look of despair, half ಠ_ಠ on her face. It seems like there was a substantial amount of food given Reimu's size and that it would have been sufficient if not for Reimu's exceedingly poor judgment.
I guess it's a matter of opinion as to if they should or shouldn't have refreshed in the first place though.
There are no clues that there was a substantial amount of food. There is only one small leaf there with some crumbs. One leaf worth of food is enough for one meal, not the duration of winter.
If Noraaki wanted to convey the sense that there was a large stockpile of food he should have drawn lots of leaves and lots of crumbs all over the place.
Then how do you explain Reimu being 3 times Marisa's size with a stalk pregnancy? I think that if the quantity of food itself was the issue then he wouldn't have drawn Reimu pregnant.
Wow, I wanted to comment on how much we are commenting on a single frame photo, but instead I feel the need to chime in.
The entire thing comes down to the shogi board up top. Shogi is a strategy game. The implication is that Marisa and Reimu have been playing for a while, with Reimu squandering supplies and eating too much, whereas Marisa has been trying hard to save up for winter. The implication that he gathered a lot of food for the winter is pretty clear. She planned it out so they would have enough food for the winter, and Reimu ate it all in one day. Checkmate.
I think what Noraaki was trying to convey here wasn't the quantity of the food or that they are doomed, but rather that only marisa is doomed. The way I see it, marisa has gathered enough food for both of them to have one leaf together per day for the duration of winter, but now that reimu is pregnant in addition to greedy, she gets all of the food.
For all we know reimu could have been that fat before winter.
Checkmate
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ShogiFirst day of winter survival