Ah, the usual "We'll beat the shitty humans to a pulp and..." skit.
Looking at the bigger picture: genetically yukkuri know that predators like Remi and Flan are dangerous and the factory is their ultimate hell, but they never seem to be able to understand that humans are far, far more dangerous than anything they may encounter; so they end up think of humans as some sorta weaklings and constantly look for us to cause trouble - leading to obvious consequences. Now this is strange: why do they instinctively know that particular kinds of manjuus are dangerous, but humans that can absolutely decimate them are not? The most important piece of information for survival is, for some reasons, not transferred genetically between generations. Odd.
Ah, the usual "We'll beat the shitty humans to a pulp and..." skit.
Looking at the bigger picture: genetically yukkuri know that predators like Remi and Flan are dangerous and the factory is their ultimate hell, but they never seem to be able to understand that humans are far, far more dangerous than anything they may encounter; so they end up think of humans as some sorta weaklings and constantly look for us to cause trouble - leading to obvious consequences. Now this is strange: why do they instinctively know that particular kinds of manjuus are dangerous, but humans that can absolutely decimate them are not? The most important piece of information for survival is, for some reasons, not transferred genetically between generations. Odd.
If they were more intelligent and respectful, justifying abyuse becomes more difficult.
Think of abyuse works as the typical slander in propaganda aimed at dehumanizing and vilifying your enemy.
Well, obviously the real reason is that it allows for the kinds of interactions that the author wants to write.
But here is an idea: maybe yukkuri do not recognize humans as dangerous, because they rarely actually eat yukkuri. Predators and being eaten are one of the few things all yukkuri seem to understand as dangerous. When they are being abused, punished or exterminated, they often don't comprehend what is going on and will just whine and demand that is stops. But when they are being eaten, they almost always understand and react appropriately (in their own useless and annoying way).
So maybe yukkuri can only really understand one type of threat to run away from and that is predators. Since humans don't eat yukkuri, they are not predators, they are just being mean for no reason. And that doesn't sink in as the same kind of inherently dangerous.
That beings said, boasting about being tough and invincible as long as the source of danger is out of sight is something that yukkuris do all the time even with predators.
uneasy said: That beings said, boasting about being tough and invincible as long as the source of danger is out of sight is something that yukkuris do all the time even with predators.
And humans do that as well. Just look at the number of tough guys on the internet. Or soldiers who had not their ptsd kicked in just yet.
There are studies that suggest this is a normal coping mechanism and your subconscious knows well that you are not that capable and the boasting is to reassure yourself about the situation.
Is it still against the rules for anti-abuse people to come into abuse pics and start shit like this?
Yes.
TosylChloride said:
Now this is strange: why do they instinctively know that particular kinds of manjuus are dangerous, but humans that can absolutely decimate them are not? The most important piece of information for survival is, for some reasons, not transferred genetically between generations. Odd.
For yus, I think it's the "easiness" of humans (or niceheads); that is, humans have everything a yu would want. To a shithead, easy=passive, and is to be exploited. And that's a predatory perspective. So, a shithead fears the intent of other predators, as they know what they're after-easiness-no matter if it's a meal or King Marisa (lol) world domination.
And you're maligning it and those who like it, and have been doing so for a while. Stop it.
-_____- Are you SERIOUS? I have no issues with abyuse if it is done right. If it is the typical drivel of going ballistic over a magical manjuu asking for sweets, then I do not enjoy that story because it is formulaic and lame. The same can be said with refreshing with a stray, it is lame and have been done to death for nearly a decade of yu stories both in comic and fanfic form.
If it was like EasyV's magic box story where yus are eaten by hobos for sustenance, I would say that is quite good. Why? Because it is believable and non-assholic.
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And before you think I was attacking tosyl, read again. I was answering his question. Take a page from yukkuris, take it easy. If you have issues, consult a professional or your personal mentor. No need for you to start this drama with me or anyone else.
You answered his question by comparing yukkuri abuse comics to slanderous, dehumanizing propaganda. Which fits right in with maligning people who enjoy the abuse comics that you don't, which you've done on multiple occasions.
You answered his question by comparing yukkuri abuse comics to slanderous, dehumanizing propaganda. Which fits right in with maligning people who enjoy the abuse comics that you don't, which you've done on multiple occasions.
-__- How do most abyuse comics go most of the time again?
Dumb ass yukkuris do stupid things because they are stupid and should die.
Now tell me how is my analogy wrong? This is pretty much an established literary device and psychological ploy that is employed by authors to get the reader to sympathize with whoever he wants the reader to sympathize. In the case of abyuse comics it is often the abyuser.
And how does that malign people who enjoy abuse comics?
Calling people who enjoy those comics people "who want to laugh at a inferior creature to feel good about themselves" maligns them. You imply that them enjoying yukkuri abuse means there's something wrong with them, that they have mental issues. You've done the same thing to anons in stores who abuse yukkuris. You attacked me personally in those very same terms a few comments above this one.
Comparing abuse comics to slanderous, dehumanizing propaganda, meanwhile, says that the creators of the abuse works are liars when they write yukkuris as disgusting creatures, and has the added effect of conjuring the mental image of Joseph Goebbels.
The things you're saying about abuse fans and abuse comics now is all of the type of attacks that anti-abuse fans have been throwing around for years.
I swear man. You grasp at straws way too much you should start weaving a basket.
Laughing at something's bad fortune to make yourself feel good does not mean you have mental health issues. It is a coping mechanism shared by all of humanity. Yes, it is dickish if you do that openly and in public but it is pretty much certain that the subconscious goes "better you than me buddy XD" each time you hear a sad story especially if the sad story is of a person you do not particularly like.
Abyuse comics are geared in a way that you do not feel too bad about the victim and that is done by making the victim as vile and as unrelatable (by making it comically stupid among other plot devices) as possible. And guess what that process is: self contained propaganda prepared for the reader to consume so that the story slides in their gullet much easier like the author intends it to be.
Now tosyl asked why do yukkuris not learn that humans equal bad juju when there are several generations of them that already had bad experiences with humans. The answer of course is plot convenience but I wrote that he should treat abyuse works where yukkuris he is talking about are often depicted as propaganda (the idea being most abyuse work do not really bother depicting yukkuri learning from their or their previous generations error because they are stupid and predisposed for failure)
Abyuse authors ignore most of the established fan canon that traumatic experiences are passed on to the next generation if the one experiencing it or having seen it survived. Authors ignore the reality that learned self destructive behavior could not possibly persist beyond a point that it gets repeated ad infinitum by the same lineage so the whole idiotic schtick of yukkuri that had previous experiences with people still doing the dumb ass things they do as highly unlikely as the idiotic yus should die out. ----
Let me repeat this again: just in case you do not understand me earlier and so I can elaborate. I have no issue with abyuse comics. I like them more in nature stories because in that setting there is often not too many convenient exaggeration of the failure of a creature a yukkuri is. The characters in nature stories are often believable and their motivations are more realistic as opposed to human-abuse-yukkuri stories where the set up is often contrived and unrealistic (and even edgelordy).
I avoid reading in full most human-abuse-yukkuri stories and skim them instead because they are often formulaic with a slight variation here and there and with a little too much emphasis on the often drawn-out sadistic shenanigans of the story's anon. Why bother with the same boring chore of a story when you can just read the first part of the story and the ending, if there is nothing interesting there to keep you flipping the pages.
Ah, the usual "We'll beat the shitty humans to a pulp and..." skit.
Because human in yu universe are slave to pet yus. Yu's apperance can trick soft heart people to give them food and shelter for free - sadly, in yukkuri logic: food and shelter grow by themself! The evidence is: In their memory paste, all of them want to become pet yu - both nice and shit heads, strays often refresh with pet yu to earn a right to enter human's house, how do stray recognize pet yu? Pet yus have clean and fat body. They like to argue with human with shitty logic "this is xxxx easy place" and human at least hear their words (but kill them later), but predators yukkuri like Reimilla or Flan are not like that - they don't hear or need to know anything from their preys, predator logic: "kill preys immediately" (sound like Hajime in Kenshin :)) - stray yu, pet yu, house yu, rare yu are the same to predators, when they want to eat, they kill, that's all. And that's the very reason yukkuris run or tremble to death when facing predators.
Next time when the shitty human comes, Marisa will beat them to a pulp and force them to show her location!She's us Marisa's little one noze! She's absolutely fine.Dwaddie ish cwool nojee~Uu... what has happened to little one... Marisa is worried...