Kiriraitaa's art and stories are just amazing. I'd honestly love to see a Kiriraitaa comic on the inside of a Factory, from the breeding stages to the end.
I can't understand why you all are saying the mother is at fault. It's true that the mother ONLY helped the Shellrisa, but she HAD TO. There was no other option. Other than leaving the Shellrisa to die because it can't move and what mother would do that? The Big Sis is at fault. I can understand the hate she has but it couldn't be helped. Big Sis can do everything a yukkuri needs to survive (besides hunting). It doesn't need help. Little Shellrisa can't move (fast enough to be useful), jump or apparently pee-pee by it's self. The mother had to help it. Sure, the mother could have given the Big Sis a ride every now and again but if she gave the Big Sis Marisa ALL the privileges that the Shellrisa had, would it not turn out to be scum that wanted everything done for it? The only reason I don't say that for the Shellrisa is because it's actually nice. Even when yelled at and called scum it doesn't retaliate with hate. It doesn't act like it's top-tier even though it's privileged. Plus, once the Shellrissa was big enough, don't you think it'd get stronger and start acting on it's own? So all of this "one sided love" you all see would drop off completely. Lastly, to me, it doesn't even look like the pee-pee did anything to the Shellrisa. It looked it died from the fall, not melting. If you recall, the Big Sis says she's "falling asleep in her own pee" which happens immediately after the impact. It seems to be that Shellrisas in general should be waterproof. Plus, wouldn't she have near fully melted when Big Sis was pee-peeing on her? She seemed only smashed when the mother found her. Sorry for rambling... I like to type a lot...
TL;DR: Big Sis at fault, not mother. Died of smashing, not pee-pee.
SIX said: Lastly, to me, it doesn't even look like the pee-pee did anything to the Shellrisa. It looked it died from the fall, not melting. If you recall, the Big Sis says she's "falling asleep in her own pee" which happens immediately after the impact. It seems to be that Shellrisas in general should be waterproof. Plus, wouldn't she have near fully melted when Big Sis was pee-peeing on her? She seemed only smashed when the mother found her. Sorry for rambling... I like to type a lot...
TL;DR: Big Sis at fault, not mother. Died of smashing, not pee-pee.
I won't debate who's at fault, as I believe both of them are responsible, but I will say that I'm pretty sure melting from the pee was what killed the shellrisa. After all, this is what she looked like right after the fall: post #26865 She appears hurt and in pain, but not fatally so. She's most likely not 'dying' when Marisa comments on 'falling asleep in pee', shes passing out from the pain. After all, even humans will pass out/faint if subjected to enough pain.
And here's what she looks like when the mother finds her minutes, or maybe even hours later: post #26872 She obviously has melted quite a bit from soaking in the pee for a significant chunk of time. Basically, I think shellrisa probably could have lived, if the big sister had simply moved her out of the puddle of pee, but since she didn't.... and the thought probably never crossed her mind either.
Plus, wouldn't she have near fully melted when Big Sis was pee-peeing on her?
Dough doesn't melt/fall apart instantly when put in water, it takes a little while before that happens.
It seems to be that Shellrisas in general should be waterproof.
I think this is the very FIRST time a shellrisa was drawn, aka this comic might be the origin of shellrisas, and the idea that shellrisas might be waterproof and/or aquatic came later. Regardless, the very fact that this shellrisa melted, whether she was alive or dead at the time, should show that this particular shellrisa wasn't water proof.
TL;DR: Wont debate who's at fault. Fall knocked her out from pain, soaking in pee killed her.
Oh~ See! Here I am, thinking these little things melt like...instantly. Bluh. Also, That second image...how do you do it... post #26872 like that? I dunno, that just doesn't look any more damaged than before to me. To me, at least, it just seems convulsing after dieing. Or something like that, you know?
As far as Shellrisas go, if this was the first time these were around, then that makes sense. Someone else probably changed them to aquatic types later or something. Even if not, stuff varies from artist to artist, right?
don't forget that she didn't just melt in her own pee after being seriously wounded, she was actually soaked badly by big sis peeing on her. So she was softened and soaked enough to start meltin.
I do can understand where Six is going, but even with kids of special needs, there is a limit of how much you can neglet your other kid, or at least not give it the proper talk, even patchouli warned marisa about how the way she treated the big sis may bring problems.
HankySpank said: Hypocrites~! I'm sure each and every one of you wanted to smash Shellrisa when she spouted lines like "Put cute Marisa on the table, okay?"
Nope. Not one bit. If she was my pet, I teach that that was wrong to say but I would smash her.
Sad story of how favoritism tears families apart, simply with the added fact that simpler Yukkuri habits mean that such behavior can often have fatal results.
It's partially the sister's fault for being a douche canoe, but it's also the mother's fault for not explaining to the sister that Shell's fragility and immobility necessitated extra care that the sister didn't need. That, in other words, it wasn't doting for the sake of it.
Also very slightly the Patchouli, for being smart enough to see this coming but not explaining it to the sister when Mother Marisa was dismissive.
You're all forgetting a very important character: Shellrisa. She choose to try and show up her sister; bullies only work when 'adults' turn a blind eye or you listen to them. If shell has ignored her sister, she'd still be alive. So, they all share the blame, equally.
Shell marisa melted? I didn’t see any heat source. Melting is what butter does in a hot skillet, and that doesn’t involve any water. I think you mean shell marisa dissolved.
I know a lot of people like to point all the blame at mother Marisa, and it's true that she did favor Shell. However, Shell really did require extra help, so it's not as though it was favoritism for the simple vanity of having a rare child. It's true that this played a large part in koMarisa's bullying and killing Shell (even if the death part was unintentional). However, none of that really justifies koMarisa killing her sister, even unintentionally. Mother Marisa might be a failure, but koMarisa's death was duly earned.
perrsonadark said: so even when you kill your child you care for the shell one only fucking bitch
I wouldn't say she didn't care for the other one. You could clearly see on the last panel, she envisioned both of them and not just Shellrisa? The reason why she killed Hatrisa is because the mother believe she killed her own sister. Remember that she came in seeing her child brutally disfigured and the other one is happily sleeping, so in that sense, it's understandable, but extremely tragic.
SIX said: I can't understand why you all are saying the mother is at fault. It's true that the mother ONLY helped the Shellrisa, but she HAD TO. There was no other option. Other than leaving the Shellrisa to die because it can't move and what mother would do that? The Big Sis is at fault. I can understand the hate she has but it couldn't be helped. Big Sis can do everything a yukkuri needs to survive (besides hunting). It doesn't need help. Little Shellrisa can't move (fast enough to be useful), jump or apparently pee-pee by it's self. The mother had to help it. Sure, the mother could have given the Big Sis a ride every now and again but if she gave the Big Sis Marisa ALL the privileges that the Shellrisa had, would it not turn out to be scum that wanted everything done for it? The only reason I don't say that for the Shellrisa is because it's actually nice. Even when yelled at and called scum it doesn't retaliate with hate. It doesn't act like it's top-tier even though it's privileged. Plus, once the Shellrissa was big enough, don't you think it'd get stronger and start acting on it's own? So all of this "one sided love" you all see would drop off completely. Lastly, to me, it doesn't even look like the pee-pee did anything to the Shellrisa. It looked it died from the fall, not melting. If you recall, the Big Sis says she's "falling asleep in her own pee" which happens immediately after the impact. It seems to be that Shellrisas in general should be waterproof. Plus, wouldn't she have near fully melted when Big Sis was pee-peeing on her? She seemed only smashed when the mother found her. Sorry for rambling... I like to type a lot...
TL;DR: Big Sis at fault, not mother. Died of smashing, not pee-pee.
Many people (including me) are saying that it is mother Marisa's fault because it is. Before I continue for clarity's sake, Shellrisa is the koMarisa with a shell, Hatrisa is the koMarisa with a hat, and Marisa is the mother.
Yes, Shellrisa required special care, but that does not give Marisa the right to neglect her other child. Now, don't get me wrong, it is clear that Marisa was keeping both of them well fed and keeping them clean, but she neglected giving Hatrisa her love. Hatrisa was left alone once her sister was born. I'm not sure if you know, but it was obvious that Hatrisa was not a shithead from the beginning. (If you didn't know, a shithead is a bad yukkuri.) She truly loved her sister when she was born. But because Marisa did not show any love to Hatrisa, she slowly began to hate her little sister, and that lack of love made Hatrisa a shithead. Now that Hatrisa is a shithead, she no longer felt love for her sister and had it in her to kill Shellrisa. Marisa never considered the fact that she had neglected Hatrisa, and so this happened. So in short, if Marisa hadn't neglected showing her love to Hatrisa, this would have never happened.
I gona said this again 100% mother fault why. Its mother fault if only she listen to patchouli treated them equally. and no favor one of them if they got to fight each other. scold of them both instead. this happen in real life isaw Neighbor had 3 child 2 boy and 1 girl very beautiful girl. mother favor her child girl very beautiful girl ignore 2 boys. them 2 boy jealous of sister they leave the house older brother take his little brother. them older brother can live with no parent help. he had own job can live alone with little brother. them mother wake up she cant find his sons them she talk to all Neighbor them she talk to me i said to her they leave you because you favor only your very beautiful girl. them she cry she learn her mistake but to late now. she work super hard only her seft now she miss both her sons and older brother help her in money they both work hard to make family survive. now she work only by seft to raise her daughter. even little sister miss her brothers.
I'm genuinely befuddled how so many people still seem to gleefully absolve koMarisa of blame, and heap all the fault on the mother Marisa. Did mother Marisa fail to give koMarisa as much attention as she should have, in her efforts to look after Shell? She did, and that played a part in what happened, but for koMarisa to be so thoroughly vindictive as she was goes beyond anything that can be justified by her treatment.
Think back to the first sign of trouble, when koMarisa was rolling around, bumped into Shell, and then heaped all the blame for being hurt on Shell, going so far as to grab and shake her around demanding an apology. This was before any major discrepancies in mother Marisa's child raising even made itself evident. From the outset, koMarisa displayed some unfavorable signs of temperament, and a lot of people seem to have blithely forgotten that key bit. That was a huge shithead red flag. Bear that in mind when she went out of her way to bully Shell later on, going the extra mile to piss on her when she was obviously wounded, before bounding off to take a nap.
So again, was mother Marisa a perfect parent? No, but she's also not nearly as bad as most seem eager to paint her, and koMarisa's behavior was clearly not just because of inequitable upbringing.
Hypocrites~! I'm sure each and every one of you wanted to smash Shellrisa when she spouted lines like "Put cute Marisa on the table, okay?"
Not at all. She legitimately can't get up there unassisted.
And it's not a matter of caring more about Shell than her other child. Parents will always attempt to kill their child's murderer, even if it's another family member.
koMarisa is displaying childlike behaviors, not just shithead behaviors. Kiriraitaa's yukkuris tend to be more complex than just shitheads and niceheads and in this case, koMarisa was just jealous of her sister getting all the attention, which is a pretty common and normal thing among children in the real world. I don't think anybody is absolving her of abusing her sister but the root cause is the mother being negligent of her and, most importantly, not explaining the situation. koMarisa, in her childish mind, is resentful because she sees Shellrisa as being spoiled and pampered and wants some of that special treatment. Nobody pulled her aside to tell her Shell is physically incapable of doing things on her own because of her accessory which Yukkuris can't live without. koMarisa might have even thought Shell couldn't do anything because she was being spoiled, not because she physically couldn't. So yes, the mother is at fault for not being understanding of the older daughter's situation and explaining things to her.
koMarisa is displaying childlike behaviors, not just shithead behaviors. Kiriraitaa's yukkuris tend to be more complex than just shitheads and niceheads and in this case, koMarisa was just jealous of her sister getting all the attention, which is a pretty common and normal thing among children in the real world. I don't think anybody is absolving her of abusing her sister but the root cause is the mother being negligent of her and, most importantly, not explaining the situation. koMarisa, in her childish mind, is resentful because she sees Shellrisa as being spoiled and pampered and wants some of that special treatment. Nobody pulled her aside to tell her Shell is physically incapable of doing things on her own because of her accessory which Yukkuris can't live without. koMarisa might have even thought Shell couldn't do anything because she was being spoiled, not because she physically couldn't. So yes, the mother is at fault for not being understanding of the older daughter's situation and explaining things to her.
Well if you think about it, the whole clan were paste brain Yu's
Marisa was a single father most yukkuris are unable to focus on multiple tasks that's why yukkuris are monogamous so Marisa was blinded by the easyness of having a "special" yukkuri and forgot about her older daughter
Paste brains yukkuris mind change fast and they are very extremist while taking decisions also that paste brains always acknowledge their actions too late
We should also blame patchouli for being a incompetent and weak leader, she should had intervened on Marisa family before it was too late and even worse when she just taught Marisa about how "easy" shells are