Funny how some people think how we (yukkuri abusers) are oh so cruel but when it starts even slightly resemble human I can hardly look at it. Normal yukkuris are more or less objectification of everything wrong people but I can hardly enjoy even bodied yukkuri abuse, let alone something like this.
Because they're hopeless nerds/romantics that have been burned by females many times so they get a deep sense of fulfillment when they see them get mutilated. Yukkuris, on the other hand, are cute and don't deserve the pain, or so they think in their deluded heads, unaware of the true devious nature of yukkuris.
Also, they have Womb Envy and are resentful for lacking said organ. /Freud
in that 10% we have those interested in yukkuris that tend to fit Sun's description, or at least deserve such description for being self righteous and actually having ideas like "YUKKURI ABUSE IS WORSE THAN GURO!" and i'm telling you i had read someone saying that, though, other people called the guy on it for being retarded a pathetic, the rest of the peeps in danbooru are "meh" about yukkuris, they really don't care, they want their ecchi, hentai, moe and cool stuff, yukkuris being abused or being cute doesn't matter to them.
What is terribly amusing about it all, is that OYP attracts fire from danbooru users (those 10%) just for having violent content and people that like it (complete with personal attacks, and against the whole userbase). Capable of ignoring humans being torn apart, but not retarded non-existent blobs. Something a bit hypocritical there. They're terribly good at trolling themselves, as well.
that's why I left there, they have a lot of censorship, they want to live without Fostering discussions, not knowing that she is leading the progress.. Gelbooru prefer, is more liberal!
not always. We don't discuss yukkuri morality and the right and wrong of anons, but that's about it. Obviously there's always the big rule to follow. I've seen a lot more constructive discussion in the past 2-3 months, so I wouldn't say discussion has died down.
Gelbooru is filled with illiterate morons. Low standards and stupidity is the price for liberalism.
"And they don't have that stupid 3-days-or-rejection rule.
You mean the not-stupid rule that ensures the site isn't flooded with shitty art, Western crap, furries, memes, and other assorted nonsense, like its Downs Syndrome cousin?
Waah, they actually have standards and don't cater to retards.
if the admins weren't so biased towards everything moe and touhou related, we'd have a bigger variety of stuff on danbooru other than touhou futa and hentai. There's a ton of good art that I see on danbooru one day only to disappear later because the admin doesn't think its cute enough or explicit enough. Most of the pixiv artist uploads never see the light of day.
Am I the only one driven to laugh? One would think Danbooru must be some sort of guro-centered madhouse reading the comments above. Even though it's mostly about just Japanese stuff, related or not with hentai. Of course, I've seen a lot of heartwarming or saddening human stories in Danbooru as well, ones I seriously enjoyed. And comparing the number of guro to the whole, it's less than one per cent. Without even a guarantee that all of them actually enjoy and cheer at guro. And this is enough to describe it as "deluded heads that get a sense of fulfillment when they see girls mutilated" and "capable of ignoring humans torn apart" huh? I'm disappointed.
>>Because they're hopeless nerds/romantics that have been burned by females many times so they get a deep sense of fulfillment when they see them get mutilated. I heavily resent this sentiment. Guro fans have explained ON THIS SITE in discussions that YOU WERE A PART OF and no one has ever made any statement similar to what you describe. Guro is about art. It's about beauty. Internal organs with lifelike texture. Splintering bones so well rendered that you can almost hear them crack. Blood-covered titties. Yukkuri violence doesn't have any of this, as it's all just generic filling. >>the true devious nature of yukkuris This isn't even objective. Yukkuri nature is always a product of the artist, a variable.
Warui, it started when Ohai made a sweeping generalization about the "danbooru guys." Danbooru's uploads are monitored and accepted via a small team of moderators. Elsewhere, a small vocal minority voiced that they thought we were sick in the head and yukkuri abuse was wrong. What Ohai did was synthesize the approval habits of the moderators together with the comments of a small group of members and deduce that the "danbooru guys" love guro and hate yukkuri torture.
Moving on, Danbooru seeks to collect Japanese art because it is unique and comes from a fresh cultural perspective. They want to capture the best of the best and with guro, the best of the worst so to speak. Most "true" guro is not about gradual torture and dialogue but about capturing a scene where someone is mutilated. It's also drawn in great(er) detail, as opposed to yukkuri torture which is mostly scribbles uploaded to an anonymous image board.
"I heavily resent this sentiment. Guro fans have explained ON THIS SITE in discussions that YOU WERE A PART OF and no one has ever made any statement similar to what you describe. Guro is about art. It's about beauty. Internal organs with lifelike texture. Splintering bones so well rendered that you can almost hear them crack. Blood-covered titties."
Don't give me that nonsense. First of all, using "guro fans" is just like using "yukkuri fans." There are multiple types of fans as well as multiple types of guro. There's a lot of it that doesn't have any "beauty" or "lifelike texture." In many cases there is a strong cognitive element in it, the feeling of fear, horror, despair, and so on. Many times it is also drawn in a quick, low-detail, comic format with no painstaking detail.
In addition a good portion of guro is made depicting popular female anime characters, who are usually canonically cute and annoying. I stand by my statement that a substantial part of guro is about venting frustration at life, women, and the happy-go-lucky world of many animes.
- Yukkuri abuse isn't tolerated on Danbooru largely because a small number of people cannot (or will not) stomach the concept of cute-looking creatures being violently abused regardless of reason. Light abuse/teasing might be able to get by or some quick violence in a largely violent-free series (ie: Things Not Said), but that's about it. Though in any case, if the violence pics were more tolerated there, only a handful of artists here would have their pics get by the queue and/or not get flagged by someone. (Kiriraitaa and Bisexual having the best shots.)
On a non-violent route, trashy/shithead Yukkuri pics will often die in the mod queue.
- As far as the real guro art that's posted there, it's more of a mixed bag. On one hand, it's largely "soft" stuff such as a severed limb or impalement (while the more "extreme" stuff is usually killed on sight or left to die in the queue), but on the other hand, some of the surviving "extreme" stuff still lingers around. To my knowledge, only two guro artists on that site are actively liked (Depth Bomb in a sort of begrudging type of way and Tajima Yuuki, though he does a lot more cheesecake than guro.)
>>The danbooru guys detest yukkuri abuse, but love guro, what the fuck.
Guro is actually a commonly blacklisted tag there, right up there with scat, vore, other common extreme fetishes, and rating:e if my resources are right. As I mentioned, Yukkuri violence is just tolerated lower than that.
>I stand by my statement that a substantial part of guro is about venting frustration at life, women, and the happy-go-lucky world of many animes. If you don't want to take people's input into consideration than we don't need yours. Go back to watching Glen Beck and believing Obama is Muslim you ignorant fuck.
>>If you don't want to take people's input into consideration than we don't need yours.
What makes you think I didn't take your input into consideration? Your input was heavily flawed and ignorant of the full view of the topic in question.
>>Go back to watching Glen Beck and believing Obama is Muslim you ignorant fuck.
Whoa boy, you best stop sipping that liberal propaganda cool-aid. I don't even watch television and I don't care about what or who Obama is- I didn't even vote.
Go back to watching Gossip Girl and believing communism is a viable economic system you ignorant flip-a-doo.
Take it easy, This. SUN is just doing his usual. No need to start throwing names around, or accusing him of following Glenn Beck...
I recall a moment not too long ago on Danbooru when somebody uploaded some of Kiriraitaa's True Happiness series and an argument/debate broke out.
The person who uploaded them then went on this huge rant about how yukkuri abusers were the absolute scum of the earth, about how yukkuri abuse art was worse than guro, and that our supposed 'logic' for justifying yukkuri abuse would inevitably lead to us torturing and hurting animals in real life.
No, seriously - that was what he said.
At the end of the day, people just don't like yukkuri abuse. As far as most are concerned, they're these cute, deformed heads that take it easy, and that is all they should be. And to be perfectly honest, I fully respect that, and part of me wishes it was so. I rather liked yukkuris back before I witnessed them giving birth to smaller yukkuris, shitting, peeing, and acting like shitheads.
As for being compared with guro, I believe mutantpenguin put it the best.
So maybe we can all take it easy from here on out?
I suppose. No use projecting people problems onto the faceless facets of others. I've just been having issues understanding how so many misguided people came from our public school systems, and Sun's self-righteousness is the personality of the american caricature that I just want to put a bullet in.
>>I've just been having issues understanding how so many misguided people came from our public school systems
This is some epic irony. Didn't they teach you how to debate and not resort to ad hominem attacks? Didn't your history classes teach you again and again the fallacies and misguided nature of the idealogies you subscribe to?
Classical This debating style: make a point, get point refuted, personally insult opponent, make a shallow speech about things beyond your understanding, exit stage right.
>>american caricature that I just want to put a bullet in.
I'd like to end the American caricature that all Americans are gun-toting nutcases that want to put a bullet in everything. Nice job living up to that caricature, buddy. Now go join your pal George Clooney and keep on pretending you know what being an American is.
>>gun-toting nutcases that want to put a bullet in everything I don't even own a gun. I had originally typed "disembowl with a fork" but decided a shooting imagery would get the point accross better. Long story short, I want a couple million worthless people with incorrigible and misheld ideologies to stop existing, and I don't care how it's done.
>> I recall a moment not too long ago on Danbooru when somebody uploaded some of Kiriraitaa's True Happiness series and an argument/debate broke out. The person who uploaded them then went on this huge rant about how yukkuri abusers were the absolute scum of the earth, about how yukkuri abuse art was worse than guro, and that our supposed 'logic' for justifying yukkuri abuse would inevitably lead to us torturing and hurting animals in real life. No, seriously - that was what he said.
Not quite exactly, I looked through the person's comment history just and that specific argument was on a upload of an edit (post #22615, to be specific). The one that was on the True Happiness posts (yum3's edited versions) was pretty silly in itself, however.
You are a parody of yourself. Are you purposely trolling us by acting as the perfect archetype of the sophomoric, pretentious, Nietzsche-wannabe teenager?
Furthermore, what makes you think that in your feeble mind and meager existence you have the answers to dictate what is correct and incorrect, which ideologies are valid or not, and who should live or die?
Also, the people you deem worthless probably do have worth and work hard, unlike some people who would rather intoxicate the world with destructive ideologies rather than making a living doing beneficial, real work.
So if you want to kill off worthless people, start with yourself.
>>Long story short, I want a couple million worthless people with incorrigible and misheld ideologies to stop existing, and I don't care how it's done. You know who else wanted millions of worthless people with incorrigible and mishelf ideologies to stop existing, and didn't care how it was done?
People, again, 90% of danbooru don't give a damn about yukkuris, it's only a "part" of the remaining 10% that gives a damn, though yeah, a great deal of those that give a damn tend to be too idiotically self righteous, to the point of going "yukkuri abuse is bad and guro is fine" and yeah, i had read at least 1 poster said that there, i swear i facepalmed when i saw.
Danbooru has it's issues but it isn't that bad, same way how OYP isn't as bad as the danbooru folks claim, i still laugh about how they look down at this place and the only "good argument" they come with is our discussions and arguments, when well, Yukkuris ARE a controversial discursion source, and it's not like they don't get arguments there and have all "happy happy comunnity" there, they are as much as us in general.
In the end Danbooru and OYP aren't that much different in worth, but some people here clearly are angry at danbooru for the overall attacks and danbooru is few yukkuri interested people are delusional in their self rightenounes.
And guro for guro isn't art for me, gorey images in mangas or anime as part of an overall story is acceptable and gives depth, but a pic meant to show random gore violence out of gore violence without context is kinda meh....
>>and who should live or die? We're on the wrong website for that. Most everyone here has called for blood at one point. >>So if you want to kill off worthless people, start with yourself. You're getting emotional again. >>You know who else wanted millions of worthless people with incorrigible and mishelf ideologies to stop existing, and didn't care how it was done? You know who else just invoked Godwin's Law? Nobody. You have lost the argument in a record-breaking 1 post.
">>We're on the wrong website for that. Most everyone here has called for blood at one point."
That's called projection, when you project your own psyche, beliefs, and motivations onto others. The actual number of people who have called for blood is a handful: You, SumGai, anelaidlives(sp), and maybe some other people I can't name off the top of my head. Maybe I made a joke about it a while ago.
But you're always welcome to distort reality and history to make a point.
">>You're getting emotional again. "
No, you became emotional, irrational, ignorant, and stereotype-happy when you insulted me with that Glenn Beck comment. You missed my demographic by a long shot.
">>You know who else just invoked Godwin's Law? Nobody. You have lost the argument in a record-breaking 1 post."
You know who has a poor grasp of history? You. We don't even need Hitler or nazis and you show your arrogance and ignorance when you mentioned Godwin's Law since there are tons of other examples. Here's some: every leader of a communist regime ever.
And This, you can't even talk about losing arguments when you don't even answer any counterpoints made against you. You've automatically lost by continuously ignoring them, a loser by default.
>>You missed my demographic by a long shot. Really. >>Go back to believing communism is a viable economic system >>every leader of a communist regime ever If you're not part of the retard-right, why do you act like there's a third Red Scare? Socialism != Communism. You've done nothing to separate yourself from a libertarian hick.
>>If you're not part of the retard-right, why do you act like there's a third Red Scare? Socialism != Communism. You've done nothing to separate yourself from a libertarian hick.
You seem to be a little confused. Right != libertarian, yet you seem to use them interchangeably. Here, let me give you a little crash course to counter some of that corrosive propaganda and non-education:
Right and Left: In actuality they are very close to each other but differ in relatively small ways. However, they've managed to make the average person think they are radically different. Both cater to special interest groups in order to gain votes.
Conservative: Want smaller federal government and ideally think people should be in tightly-knit small communities where people work for the goals of said community instead of being a small dot in a global enclave. Prefer more traditional lifestyles because they have proven effective and if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Libertarian: Pretty much like conservatism except employs more complex reasoning to arrive at pretty much the same ends. For example, whereas a conservative might argue that abortion is wrong because life should be considered sacred, a libertarian would create intricate logical narratives using various letters and numbers.
Liberal: Pure individual autonomy and equality. Nothing else matters- not family, not nation, not your spouse, not your community, not anything else except the lofty notion of equality. Employ vast government bureaucracies along with copious rules and regulations to ensure everyone appears to be equal and no one's feelings are hurt. If people fail tests, lower difficulty of tests so everyone can pass and feel happy. Gather large amount of taxes to pay for welfare and replace men with government handouts- women are strong and independent!.... as long as a huge government exists to support them. Give lots of money to hordes of single moms with defective children. Invent total lies like "oppressive patriarchy" and "blank state." Assume everything is a cultural construct even if it flies in the face of science.
And most libertarians are actually well-educated. A real hick doesn't know a libertarian from a liberal. And a quotation:
"We can't expect the American people to jump from capitalism to communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving them small doses of socialism, until they awaken one day to find they have communism."
I think i'll do the same petition i did back then in that pic about sankaku complex pic, please:
NO IDEOLOGICAL/POLITICAL DISCUSSION IN OYP, and "This", killing 1 million people out of idelogical reasons is plainly wrong, nazi, communismn, religious, logical, eugenics, whatever logic you want to apply to justify it either being your idelogy, or theirs, it's plainly wrong to do so all because, GAPS, they think different than you. The wrongness of such statement is beyond ideological or poltiical reasons, it's plainly wrong for any decent or decent enough human being.
I'm wondering if there's an author note that says "yeah this is totally a hookerkkuri." Because without the edgy tags This added or the "proposition" one added during upload, it just looks like a very poor-off wild bodied Marisa.
Maybe it's a tamer way to label this situation out of how, well "depressive" this pic is, though i do recall some other pics with the prostitution tag.