I'm not sure the trash case can be used as an average of trash yukkuri child caring, after all, there wouldn't be so many trash yu's if all the trashs they treated all their kids like this. Of course that doesn't mean they take as good care of their kids as the non trash yu's but they should be good enough to keep the supply of trash manjuus flowing.
Of course Trash Yukkuris condemning themselves to extinction leaving the nice yu's alone would be a very nice thing even if unlikely. Boring for some abyusers but oh well they would still have their ultra violent video games.
I prefer to think that anon here has misidentified yukkuri that have been trained by an abuser to treat their children properly with trash yukkuri who only harass humans
This is how the trash treats their little ones. It's horrible...
These yukkuri have discovered joy. Should we not celebrate their lives by teaching more about the path of abuse?
yukiyuzen said: You're implying that trash yukkuris have some kind of trait that makes them apparent without testing them.
Well being rabidly scum is a trait that makes them apparent without test, if they are mild scum there could be a possibility of scum with potential, but that depends of the author, usually it's the "mild scum" the ones you may try to test.
JusticeItEasy said: Well being rabidly scum is a trait that makes them apparent without test, if they are mild scum there could be a possibility of scum with potential, but that depends of the author, usually it's the "mild scum" the ones you may try to test.
How can I tell a yukkuri is "mild scum" in the first place without testing it?
If a Reimu comes up to you and begs you for food claiming that it would share with others, how do you know if she will really share with others without following and watching her?
The "Mild Scum" is more for those yu's that are passive agressively arrogant and such like "sorry for being so cute, etc. without attacking you or insulting you directly aside of overacting their expressions" you could test those since they could be scum with potential.
My point was that there are "a great deal of Trash that can be easily detected because they act rabidly in their scum attitude", not that "all trash yu's" act rabidly. After all those Yu's that appear to be nice but at the first glance of comfort they become scum are still trash yu's but you may not know about them until you actually make them drop their guard or show their true nature, similar to the scenario yu mentioned of the "yu that promises to share with others when it doesn't."
Some yu's are easy to tell what they are some aren't, you have to be smart enough to realize which case you are facing while dealing with them.
yukiyuzen said: But then that goes back to my original question, how do you tell a yukkuri is "mild scum" in the first place without testing it?
If a "trash yu" has a scum attitude but doesn't act rabidly, how do you know if its a "mild scum" or a "trash yu" without testing it?
My point was that while some yukkuris would need some testing before reaching a conclusion, there are still many who basically telegraph in an obvious way how bad they are out of being pridefully straightfoward, not all of them, so sometimes you may not need a "test" per see, only remain put for a few moments and see how the yukkuri itself reacts without you doing much. But as i said before some yukkuris are known to hide such aspects either out of despair or waiting to be in a comfortable situation before showing their true nature.
Basically if a yukkuri drops by an goes "look at cute marisa dancing, sorry for being so cute, now give sweet-sweets!" or "pitiful reimu is a tragic heroine and a single mother make reimu your pet and give sweets sweets to reimu and her little ones! lot's are okay!" that's being mild scum. Now if that mild scum is scum with potential or not, that's another story. for Scum with Potential you'll ALWAYS need a test no way around it.
yukiyuzen said: Standing there and watching how a yukkuri behaves is also a test.
And if you're trying to establish your own subjective standards for "mild scum", it won't work.
Some people don't consider doing that a test and it's not really about subjective standars but cataloguizing them based in how rabid they are, how passsive or how agressive they are and if they show it straightfowardly or not.
Though in all seriousness I don't understand what exactly you don't agree or what you want me to explain.
JusticeItEasy said: Some people don't consider doing that a test and it's not really about subjective standars but cataloguizing them based in how rabid they are, how passsive or how agressive they are and if they show it straightfowardly or not.
Though in all seriousness I don't understand what exactly you don't agree or what you want me to explain.
Passive observation is widely considered to be a test. Cataloging is VERY subjective based on the cataloger's personal experiences; what you might consider "mild scum", I might consider "scum". Extend that across dozens/hundreds of uploaders and taggers and the catalog becomes useless.
Define "mild scum". Then take that definition and try to apply it without any testing/questioning/monitoring. Assume you can't read the yukkuri's mind and no use of "in hindsight..."
yukiyuzen said: Passive observation is widely considered to be a test. Cataloging is VERY subjective based on the cataloger's personal experiences; what you might consider "mild scum", I might consider "scum". Extend that across dozens/hundreds of uploaders and taggers and the catalog becomes useless.
Define "mild scum". Then take that definition and try to apply it without any testing/questioning/monitoring. Assume you can't read the yukkuri's mind and no use of "in hindsight..."
mild scum = the "passive agressive" scum
be it blatlant out of being straightforward or hidden because of fake niceness.
Basically yukkuris that focus more on glorifying themselves and demmand stuff out of their baseless self importance, that don't insult unless given a reason or don't attack or act agressively unless provoked.
Basically, Scum that don't jump the gun yet and wait for some action or reaction to do so.
I call them mild scum because they don't show the initial agressiveness of the scum or the rabid agressiveness of the shitheads, they are just arrogant and annoying until provoked.
Then have fun completely retagging the entire archive. People have been using the shithead and deibu(/whatever character specific tag) on "passive aggressive" scum for a while now.
Hell, people have been using the shithead and deibu tag purely based on the ARTIST. (post #22694 : Theres no text!!! How the hell do tag it deibu AND shithead?!?)
yukiyuzen said: Then have fun completely retagging the entire archive. People have been using the shithead and deibu(/whatever character specific tag) on "passive aggressive" scum for a while now.
Hell, people have been using the shithead and deibu tag purely based on the ARTIST. (post #22694 : Theres no text!!! How the hell do tag it deibu AND shithead?!?)
Hey i wasn't talking about retagging or anything, just discussing what i call a "mild scum", don't take it that seriously.
Geeze, then people say i'm the one who takes everything serious to the point of "Manjuus are Serious Bussiness! >=("